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Ch4 will show F1 highlights in 2019
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M2T
2018-09-12 11:31:31 UTC
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/45494135

Probably the day after, as Ch5 do with MotoGP.
D Munz
2018-09-12 12:23:12 UTC
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/45494135
Probably the day after, as Ch5 do with MotoGP.
Curious if this will simply be the highlights package available from F1TV or if they will do their own thing.

FWIW
DLM
larkim
2018-09-12 16:03:17 UTC
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/45494135
Probably the day after, as Ch5 do with MotoGP.
Curious if this will simply be the highlights package available from F1TV or if they will do their own thing.
FWIW
DLM
Or a Sky produced highlights programme. Surely it'll have to be more than
a generic F1TV package?

Day after would be a disaster! How can I cope with trying to avoid all
news broadcasts to avoid the result until Monday evening!!

I'd think F1 highlights would be more well placed by Ch4 than MotoGP in
terms of TV audience, but you never know.

Key question is - will we be finally losing "The Chain"??
M2T
2018-09-12 16:32:43 UTC
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Key question is - will we be finally losing "The Chain"??
Quick - grab a copy

https://archive.org/details/F1Music-TheChain
Brian W Lawrence
2018-09-12 17:20:21 UTC
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/45494135
Probably the day after, as Ch5 do with MotoGP.
Curious if this will simply be the highlights package available from F1TV or if they will do their own thing.
FWIW
DLM
Or a Sky produced highlights programme. Surely it'll have to be more than
a generic F1TV package?
It says they will not be using Sky's presenters, but not who the
presenters will be.
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Day after would be a disaster! How can I cope with trying to avoid all
news broadcasts to avoid the result until Monday evening!!
I'd think F1 highlights would be more well placed by Ch4 than MotoGP in
terms of TV audience, but you never know.
Key question is - will we be finally losing "The Chain"??
larkim
2018-09-13 06:11:38 UTC
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They could use a CH4 presentation team, but perhaps use the Sky commentary? Doesn’t seem particularly sensible use of money to employ a second commentary team if they can avoid it, but maybe that isn’t feasible under the contract.

TBH I don’t really care about the people, it’s the timing that matters to me.

If this is one programme on a Monday evening which wraps up practice, quali and the race then that would be the end of regular F1 watching for me sadly.

Let’s hope they stick with a Saturday quali recap and a Sunday delayed highlights package at the very least.
b***@topmail.co.nz
2018-09-13 08:55:52 UTC
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Or a Sky produced highlights programme. Surely it'll have to be more than
a generic F1TV package?
The Sky highlights is pitiful crap. The last race they started with the
formation lap! What a waste. Was the race so uneventful, they had to pad
it out?
larkim
2018-09-13 16:15:43 UTC
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Post by larkim
Or a Sky produced highlights programme. Surely it'll have to be more than
a generic F1TV package?
The Sky highlights is pitiful crap. The last race they started with the
formation lap! What a waste. Was the race so uneventful, they had to pad
it out?
I've just had a facepalm moment recalling that Ch4 *CURRENTLY* do F1!

So no reason why they can't do highlights as well as they currently do
them, surely?
M2T
2018-09-13 17:21:45 UTC
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Or a Sky produced highlights programme. Surely it'll have to be more than
a generic F1TV package?
The Sky highlights is pitiful crap. The last race they started with the
formation lap! What a waste. Was the race so uneventful, they had to pad
it out?
I've just had a facepalm moment recalling that Ch4 *CURRENTLY* do F1!
So no reason why they can't do highlights as well as they currently do
them, surely?
It wouldn't be good business to allow the 'new' high lights to be too
good. It would stop people joining Sky.
t***@gmail.com
2018-11-27 22:27:10 UTC
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It would stop people joining Sky.
A broke mouthpiece. Haha
M2T
2018-09-12 14:18:19 UTC
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More info
https://f1broadcasting.co/2018/09/12/channel-4-to-air-formula-1-highlights-in-2019/
Ar
2018-11-27 15:31:39 UTC
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/45494135
Probably the day after, as Ch5 do with MotoGP.
I haven't decided whether I really will give up with Formula One after
following for 20+ years (but it looks likely), but to everyone else, get
yourself a Free To Air satellite dish / box, point it at Astra1
satellite, and tune in to RTL.

The race will have lots of long ad breaks, the commentary will be in
German, it will not be in HD, BUT, you will watch all the races live.
Sir Tim
2018-11-27 21:35:11 UTC
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Post by M2T
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/45494135
Probably the day after, as Ch5 do with MotoGP.
I haven't decided whether I really will give up with Formula One after
following for 20+ years (but it looks likely), but to everyone else, get
yourself a Free To Air satellite dish / box, point it at Astra1
satellite, and tune in to RTL.
The race will have lots of long ad breaks, the commentary will be in
German, it will not be in HD, BUT, you will watch all the races live.
Alternatively subscribe to Sky and get HD coverage of every session, live,
with expert commentary in English, no ads during qually or the race,
various red button options, other formula races and much general background
and discussion. I don’t like Rupert Murdoch either but I see little point
in cutting off my nose to spite my face.
--
Sir Tim
MT2
2018-11-27 21:55:10 UTC
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Post by Ar
Post by M2T
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/45494135
Probably the day after, as Ch5 do with MotoGP.
I haven't decided whether I really will give up with Formula One after
following for 20+ years (but it looks likely), but to everyone else, get
yourself a Free To Air satellite dish / box, point it at Astra1
satellite, and tune in to RTL.
The race will have lots of long ad breaks, the commentary will be in
German, it will not be in HD, BUT, you will watch all the races live.
Alternatively subscribe to Sky and get HD coverage of every session, live,
with expert commentary in English, no ads during qually or the race,
various red button options, other formula races and much general background
and discussion. I don’t like Rupert Murdoch either but I see little point
in cutting off my nose to spite my face.
The Dirty Digger doesn't own Sky now. It's been bought by Disney - last
year.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42353545
Mark Jackson
2018-11-27 22:31:47 UTC
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Post by Sir Tim
Alternatively subscribe to Sky and get HD coverage of every
session, live, with expert commentary in English, no ads during
qually or the race, various red button options, other formula races
and much general background and discussion. I don’t like Rupert
Murdoch either but I see little point in cutting off my nose to
spite my face.
The Dirty Digger doesn't own Sky now. It's been bought by Disney -
last year.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42353545
There were regulatory questions, and then Disney lost the ensuing
bidding war. Sky belongs to Comcast:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_Limited#Takeover_by_Comcast

Comcast is also sometimes known as "The Worst Company in America":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comcast
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MT2
2018-11-27 23:02:04 UTC
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Post by Sir Tim
Alternatively subscribe to Sky and get HD coverage of every
session, live, with expert commentary in English, no ads during
qually or the race, various red button options, other formula races
and much general background and discussion. I don’t like Rupert
Murdoch either but I see little point in cutting off my nose to
spite my face.
The Dirty Digger doesn't own Sky now.  It's been bought by Disney -
last year.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42353545
There were regulatory questions, and then Disney lost the ensuing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_Limited#Takeover_by_Comcast
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comcast
BBC caught publishing Fake News - shock horror.

I knew the Dirty Digger had gone, but couldn't be arsed to keep up to
date. Comcast will soon be sorted, they've got some geezer making
America Grate Again. Last I heard he's setting up a TV news network to
tell the world about his grating.
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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/11/trump-proposes-state-run-tv-network-to-tell-world-how-great-america-is/
~misfit~
2018-11-27 23:12:45 UTC
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Post by Ar
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/45494135
Probably the day after, as Ch5 do with MotoGP.
I haven't decided whether I really will give up with Formula One
after following for 20+ years (but it looks likely), but to everyone
else, get yourself a Free To Air satellite dish / box, point it at
Astra1 satellite, and tune in to RTL.
The race will have lots of long ad breaks, the commentary will be in
German, it will not be in HD, BUT, you will watch all the races live.
Alternatively subscribe to Sky and get HD coverage of every session,
live, with expert commentary in English, no ads during qually or the
race, various red button options, other formula races and much
general background and discussion.
Assuming one has the wherewithal to do so.
Post by Sir Tim
I don't like Rupert Murdoch either
but I see little point in cutting off my nose to spite my face.
I think that your face deserves it!!! <g>
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
MT2
2018-11-27 23:42:14 UTC
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Post by Ar
Post by M2T
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/45494135
Probably the day after, as Ch5 do with MotoGP.
I haven't decided whether I really will give up with Formula One
after following for 20+ years (but it looks likely), but to everyone
else, get yourself a Free To Air satellite dish / box, point it at
Astra1 satellite, and tune in to RTL.
The race will have lots of long ad breaks, the commentary will be in
German, it will not be in HD, BUT, you will watch all the races live.
Alternatively subscribe to Sky and get HD coverage of every session,
live, with expert commentary in English, no ads during qually or the
race, various red button options, other formula races and much
general background and discussion.
Assuming one has the wherewithal to do so.
Fuck Sky, get a Firestick and install Mobdro.
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Post by Sir Tim
I don't like Rupert Murdoch either
but I see little point in cutting off my nose to spite my face.
I think that your face deserves it!!! <g>
t***@gmail.com
2018-11-28 05:47:52 UTC
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Fuck Sky, get a Firestick and install Mobdro.
Are you F1's number one fan?
t***@gmail.com
2018-11-28 05:45:51 UTC
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Assuming one has the wherewithal to do so.
No assuming with a loser like you.
CS
2018-12-02 18:48:19 UTC
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The race will have lots of long ad breaks, the commentary will be in
German, it will not be in HD, BUT, you will watch all the races live.

An listen to BBC R5 commentary?
Sir Tim
2018-12-02 22:05:37 UTC
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The race will have lots of long ad breaks, the commentary will be in
German, it will not be in HD, BUT, you will watch all the races live.
An listen to BBC R5 commentary?
How many people can be arsed? Wouldn’t it be simpler just to get Sky - or
give up watching F1?
--
Sir Tim
MT2
2018-12-02 22:41:45 UTC
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Post by Ar
The race will have lots of long ad breaks, the commentary will be in
German, it will not be in HD, BUT, you will watch all the races live.
An listen to BBC R5 commentary?
How many people can be arsed? Wouldn’t it be simpler just to get Sky - or
give up watching F1?
How are you doing ?

https://www.sky.com/shop/bundles-offers/introduceafriend/
t***@gmail.com
2018-12-02 22:50:51 UTC
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How are you doing ?
https://www.sky.com/shop/bundles-offers/introduceafriend/
Oh poor you. Cannot enjoy F1 in the
home of F1, because lack of funds.
What a loser. Well you still have
your shit laptop. Haha
~misfit~
2018-12-02 22:49:37 UTC
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The race will have lots of long ad breaks, the commentary will be in
German, it will not be in HD, BUT, you will watch all the races live.
An listen to BBC R5 commentary?
How many people can be arsed? Wouldn't it be simpler just to get Sky
- or give up watching F1?
Spoken like a person who's never had to worry about paying the bills.
Speaking for myself I can't afford Sky - and don't want to give up something
that I've been enjoying for decades. 'Simpler' has to take a back-seat to
what's (im)possible.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
t***@gmail.com
2018-12-02 22:56:54 UTC
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Spoken like a person who's never had to worry about paying the bills.
That's your own fault, loser.
Especially from a know it all mouthpiece.
Post by ~misfit~
Speaking for myself I can't afford Sky - and don't want to give up something
that I've been enjoying for decades. 'Simpler' has to take a back-seat to
what's (im)possible.
So you resort to pirating theft.
You are a pillar of society.
Fucking idiot.
t***@gmail.com
2018-12-02 23:01:35 UTC
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Spoken like a person who's never had to worry about paying the bills.
Speaking for myself I can't afford Sky - and don't want to give up something
that I've been enjoying for decades. 'Simpler' has to take a back-seat to
what's (im)possible.
Ya, boo fucking hoo.
So you resort to theft.
Willsy
2018-12-03 11:22:15 UTC
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Post by Ar
The race will have lots of long ad breaks, the commentary will be in
German, it will not be in HD, BUT, you will watch all the races live.
An listen to BBC R5 commentary?
How many people can be arsed? Wouldn't it be simpler just to get Sky
- or give up watching F1?
Spoken like a person who's never had to worry about paying the bills.
Speaking for myself I can't afford Sky - and don't want to give up something
that I've been enjoying for decades. 'Simpler' has to take a back-seat to
what's (im)possible.
--
Shaun.
"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
I can afford to pay the fee, but I jus refuse on principle. In order to
watch F1 on Sky, I have to buy the whole bloody sports package, and I'm
NOT doing that. I don't care about football, football, football, and
the latest tiddley-winks championships from Dhaka, so... No. Not doing it.
MT2
2018-12-03 12:31:39 UTC
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I can afford to pay the fee, but I jus refuse on principle. In order to
watch F1 on Sky, I have to buy the whole bloody sports package, and I'm
NOT doing that. I don't care about football, football, football, and
the latest tiddley-winks championships from Dhaka, so... No. Not doing it.
You can buy just the F1 channel for £18 a month, but you do have to pay
for Sky and the new Sky box, which is £15? a month, if you don't already
have Sky.
Willsy
2018-12-03 15:12:18 UTC
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I can afford to pay the fee, but I jus refuse on principle. In order to
watch F1 on Sky, I have to buy the whole bloody sports package, and I'm
NOT doing that. I don't care about football, football, football, and
the latest tiddley-winks championships from Dhaka, so... No. Not doing it.
You can buy just the F1 channel for £18 a month, but you do have to pay
for Sky and the new Sky box, which is £15? a month, if you don't already
have Sky.
Thanks for the information. So it's not as bad as I thought. I still think
£18 a month is quite expensive though (though in fairness, Sky's F1 coverage
is very good).

In my particular case, I work away from home during the week, so weekends
is wife-and-kids-time. I rarely get the chance to watch a grand prix as it
is aired, so I might as well watch the highlights. Currently, I record
the races on my sky box, and watch them when I have a chance.

The Sky F1 coverage is very good, but too voluminous for working dads with
young kids - I can't watch it all!

I'll stick with Channel 4 next year. If it ends up being a poor experience
then I guess I'll just end up de-facto withdrawing from F1.
geoff
2018-12-03 21:40:28 UTC
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I can afford to pay the fee, but I jus refuse on principle. In order to
watch F1 on Sky, I have to buy the whole bloody sports package, and I'm
NOT doing that. I don't care about football, football, football, and
the latest tiddley-winks championships from Dhaka, so... No. Not doing it.
You can buy just the F1 channel for £18 a month, but you do have to pay
for Sky and the new Sky box, which is £15? a month, if you don't already
have Sky.
Thanks for the information. So it's not as bad as I thought. I still think
£18 a month is quite expensive though (though in fairness, Sky's F1 coverage
is very good).
In my particular case, I work away from home during the week, so weekends
is wife-and-kids-time. I rarely get the chance to watch a grand prix as it
is aired, so I might as well watch the highlights. Currently, I record
the races on my sky box, and watch them when I have a chance.
Here with a Sky sub one gets included access to 'Sky-2-Go' online
streaming of all the channels paid for. Accessible of course wherever
there is wi-fi or mobile data coverage.

geoff
Sir Tim
2018-12-04 07:37:52 UTC
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Post by Willsy
I can afford to pay the fee, but I jus refuse on principle. In order to
watch F1 on Sky, I have to buy the whole bloody sports package, and I'm
NOT doing that. I don't care about football, football, football, and
the latest tiddley-winks championships from Dhaka, so... No. Not doing it.
You can buy just the F1 channel for £18 a month, but you do have to pay
for Sky and the new Sky box, which is £15? a month, if you don't already
have Sky.
Thanks for the information. So it's not as bad as I thought. I still think
£18 a month is quite expensive though (though in fairness, Sky's F1 coverage
is very good).
In my particular case, I work away from home during the week, so weekends
is wife-and-kids-time. I rarely get the chance to watch a grand prix as it
is aired, so I might as well watch the highlights. Currently, I record
the races on my sky box, and watch them when I have a chance.
Here with a Sky sub one gets included access to 'Sky-2-Go' online
streaming of all the channels paid for. Accessible of course wherever
there is wi-fi or mobile data coverage.
geoff
It’s the same in the Uk.
DumbedDownUSA
2018-12-03 16:58:49 UTC
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I can afford to pay the fee, but I jus refuse on principle. In
order to watch F1 on Sky, I have to buy the whole bloody sports
package, and I'm NOT doing that. I don't care about football,
football, football, and the latest tiddley-winks championships from
Dhaka, so... No. Not doing it.
You can buy just the F1 channel for £18 a month, but you do have to
pay for Sky and the new Sky box, which is £15? a month, if you don't
already have Sky.
You don't pay for the loaned box but you do pay a set up fee.

£20pm (introductory price) + £20 setup fee

so £476 for the first year increasing to £552, in the region of £23 to
£26 per race.

A not insignificant amount.
--
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with Trump. The dumbing down of our society through the media, the lack
of education through poor schools, allows for a dumbed-down electorate,
and for him to be able to actually get 63 million votes."
Sir Tim
2018-12-04 07:34:25 UTC
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Post by Ar
The race will have lots of long ad breaks, the commentary will be in
German, it will not be in HD, BUT, you will watch all the races live.
An listen to BBC R5 commentary?
How many people can be arsed? Wouldn't it be simpler just to get Sky
- or give up watching F1?
Spoken like a person who's never had to worry about paying the bills.
What on earth makes you think that? I won’t bore you with a sob story but I
can assure you that for many years I most certainly had to worry about
paying the bills. Now I *can* afford to watch Sky, so I do.

I suspect that most people here could afford it but choose not to, which
is, of course, their prerogative.
Post by ~misfit~
Speaking for myself I can't afford Sky - and don't want to give up something
that I've been enjoying for decades. 'Simpler' has to take a back-seat to
what's (im)possible.
I followed F1 keenly for many years when there was virtually no TV coverage
at all in the UK. Admittedly the motorsport print media carried much more
detailed race reports, lap charts etc. in those days (and also had
brilliant journalists like Denis Jenkinson).
--
Sir Tim
DumbedDownUSA
2018-12-04 11:04:29 UTC
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Post by Ar
The race will have lots of long ad breaks, the commentary will be
in >>> German, it will not be in HD, BUT, you will watch all the
races live. >>>
Post by ~misfit~
Post by Ar
An listen to BBC R5 commentary?
How many people can be arsed? Wouldn't it be simpler just to get
Sky >> - or give up watching F1?
Post by ~misfit~
Spoken like a person who's never had to worry about paying the bills.
What on earth makes you think that? I won’t bore you with a sob story
but I can assure you that for many years I most certainly had to
worry about paying the bills. Now I can afford to watch Sky, so I do.
I suspect that most people here could afford it but choose not to,
which is, of course, their prerogative.
I think I have always earned well but I have never considered Sky
affordable... and I don't have kids to clothe, feed or take on holiday.

I do not consider over £20 just to watch the race on a TV affordable,
nor do I consider it reasonable. It is more than I pay for my TV, phone
line and internet for a whole month. It is more than I pay for my
mobile phone package for a month.

If that were the price of F1 I would not and could not afford it.

I do not think that is difficult to comprehend.
--
"We have helped to create a situation that has allowed us to end up
with Trump. The dumbing down of our society through the media, the lack
of education through poor schools, allows for a dumbed-down electorate,
and for him to be able to actually get 63 million votes."
t***@gmail.com
2018-12-04 15:22:17 UTC
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I do not think that is difficult to comprehend.
Always the cunt.
geoff
2018-12-05 00:19:24 UTC
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Always the cunt.
Did you want to add some content ? All you appear to have posted is
your signature .
MT2
2018-12-05 00:51:26 UTC
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I think I have always earned well but I have never considered Sky
affordable... and I don't have kids to clothe, feed or take on holiday.
I do not consider over £20 just to watch the race on a TV affordable,
nor do I consider it reasonable. It is more than I pay for my TV, phone
line and internet for a whole month. It is more than I pay for my
mobile phone package for a month.
If that were the price of F1 I would not and could not afford it.
I do not think that is difficult to comprehend.
You'd not pay £40 to watch a filum down the Odeon flea pit?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-46438241
t***@gmail.com
2018-12-05 01:14:46 UTC
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You'd not pay £40 to watch a filum down the Odeon flea pit?
Get a fucking job. Stop fucking crying.
DumbedDownUSA
2018-12-05 07:16:17 UTC
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I think I have always earned well but I have never considered Sky
affordable... and I don't have kids to clothe, feed or take on holiday.
I do not consider over £20 just to watch the race on a TV
affordable, nor do I consider it reasonable. It is more than I pay
for my TV, phone line and internet for a whole month. It is more
than I pay for my mobile phone package for a month.
If that were the price of F1 I would not and could not afford it.
I do not think that is difficult to comprehend.
You'd not pay £40 to watch a filum down the Odeon flea pit?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-46438241
Lol, I doubt I'd pay £20 unless I knew I was getting my money's worth.

When you watch an F1 race you never know quite whether you will be
entertained by brilliant sports men and teams presented in an
entertaining and entralling manner or just have 2 hours of your life
stolen. I don't mind that; it used to be part of my love for the
sport... but I would resent paying £20 for the later.

...but therin lies my greater problem. I no longer have the passion for
the sport. I can still enjoy a race but I am not in love with it... we
are just fuck buddies... and I don't pay for it.
--
"We have helped to create a situation that has allowed us to end up
with Trump. The dumbing down of our society through the media, the lack
of education through poor schools, allows for a dumbed-down electorate,
and for him to be able to actually get 63 million votes."
~misfit~
2018-12-05 02:13:53 UTC
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Post by Ar
The race will have lots of long ad breaks, the commentary will be
in German, it will not be in HD, BUT, you will watch all the races
live.
An listen to BBC R5 commentary?
How many people can be arsed? Wouldn't it be simpler just to get Sky
- or give up watching F1?
Spoken like a person who's never had to worry about paying the bills.
What on earth makes you think that?
"Wouldn't it be simpler just to get Sky" No talk of affordability tends to
make the reader think that it's not an issue to be considered.
Post by Sir Tim
I won't bore you with a sob story
but I can assure you that for many years I most certainly had to
worry about paying the bills. Now I *can* afford to watch Sky, so I
do.
I suspect that most people here could afford it but choose not to,
which is, of course, their prerogative.
Post by ~misfit~
Speaking for myself I can't afford Sky - and don't want to give up
something that I've been enjoying for decades. 'Simpler' has to take
a back-seat to what's (im)possible.
I followed F1 keenly for many years when there was virtually no TV
coverage at all in the UK. Admittedly the motorsport print media
carried much more detailed race reports, lap charts etc. in those
days (and also had brilliant journalists like Denis Jenkinson).
Before my back crapped out and I was running my own business I had Sky and
*only* used it for F1 (oh and sometimes Indycars / Champcars / whatever they
were calling themselves at the time). That said, even though I was making a
good living it still wasn't an insignificant amount of money to get Sky /
Sky sports. I would record every race (to VHS) and leave it in the porch for
my retired uncle to pick up the next morning (and leave another tape for the
next race). Races are, or were then, almost always on in the wee hours here
in NZ. He would then pass the tape on to my cousin to watch on the Monday
night.

Previous to Sky picking up the rights here in NZ it was shown free-to-air
live on the state broadcasters channel and my uncle and cousin (and many
many others) followed it religiously. I could have many informed and
interesting coversations about F1 in the pub or when meeting friends.
Post-race Mondays were great for bleary-eyed F1 chats. However within a
couple of years of Sky picking it up I could only talk about it with my
uncle (and a little later on line).

Now I don't know anyone (in person) who follows F1 (though I must admit my
social circle has shrunk along with my income). I think that even if I was
still socialising as much as I used to I'd still struggle to find someone
who follows F1 to the point of watching every race. Here a lot of people
access Sky sport through 'sports bars' which is fine for rugby (union and
league, if you're into that sort of thing) but good luck finding a sports
bar that's open (when the races are live) and showing F1!
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
Mower Man
2018-12-03 16:54:05 UTC
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Post by Ar
The race will have lots of long ad breaks, the commentary will be in
German, it will not be in HD, BUT, you will watch all the races live.
An listen to BBC R5 commentary?
How many people can be arsed? Wouldn’t it be simpler just to get Sky - or
give up watching F1?
I've been watching the GPs not covered by initially the BBC and
latterly C4 via RTL for some years - and indeed listening to commentary
on R5Live.

I will not pay Murdoch for stuff I can get for free - and I never watch
the "build up" or post race analyses either. Mark Hughes post race
reports are almost better than watching the event!

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