Hamilton in Ferrari

[Yazoo]

I've been Hamilton's supporter since he joined F1.
On the other side I never liked Ferrari much.
So, this is a bit strange situation for me. I like him, but red car is
not my favorite.
How to deal with this? Any thoughts?

[Eric]

Post by Yazoo
I've been Hamilton's supporter since he joined F1.
On the other side I never liked Ferrari much.
So, this is a bit strange situation for me. I like him, but red car is
not my favorite.
How to deal with this? Any thoughts?

I've got a good friend who feels the exact same way as you, except he
HATES Ferrari. He's said he's cheering for McLaren this year but doesn't
want to pick a driver.

[Yazoo]

Post by Eric
I've got a good friend who feels the exact same way as you, except he
HATES Ferrari. He's said he's cheering for McLaren this year but doesn't
want to pick a driver.

Hate is too strong feeling for sports. If I don't like someone in
sports, I really don't have any reason to hate them.

[scole]

Post by Yazoo

Post by Eric
I've got a good friend who feels the exact same way as you, except he
HATES Ferrari. He's said he's cheering for McLaren this year but doesn't
want to pick a driver.

Hate is too strong feeling for sports. If I don't like someone in
sports, I really don't have any reason to hate them.

I broadly agree, although the exception to the rule is Christian Horner.
That guy is a real prick...

[Alan]

Post by scole

Post by Yazoo

Post by Eric
I've got a good friend who feels the exact same way as you, except he
HATES Ferrari. He's said he's cheering for McLaren this year but doesn't
want to pick a driver.

Hate is too strong feeling for sports. If I don't like someone in
sports, I really don't have any reason to hate them.

I broadly agree, although the exception to the rule is Christian Horner.
That guy is a real prick...

That's a PERSON, not a whole sports organization.

I can understand disliking a person (even if it's only based on limited
information), but disliking a particular racing team... ...for long
periods of time with changing personnel?

What's the point of that?

[Mark Jackson]

Post by Yazoo
I've been Hamilton's supporter since he joined F1.
On the other side I never liked Ferrari much.
How to deal with this? Any thoughts?

I have mild preferences in the same directions, but no really strong
fannish feelings. So it's easy for me to wish Hamilton well, and if as
a result Ferrari beats Red Bull that's just fine.

[Yazoo]

On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 20:41:27 -0500, Mark Jackson

Post by Mark Jackson
I have mild preferences in the same directions, but no really strong
fannish feelings. So it's easy for me to wish Hamilton well, and if as
a result Ferrari beats Red Bull that's just fine.

Yes, mee too. :)
In my order of things, Ferrari is above Red Bull, allways.

[Alan]

Post by Mark Jackson

Post by Yazoo
I've been Hamilton's supporter since he joined F1.
On the other side I never liked Ferrari much.
How to deal with this? Any thoughts?

I have mild preferences in the same directions, but no really strong
fannish feelings.  So it's easy for me to wish Hamilton well, and if as
a result Ferrari beats Red Bull that's just fine.

I have appreciation for teams that came from small beginnings.

McLaren may be a huge business now, but it was basically started by one
talented racing driver who was also an engineer.

Ditto, Brabham...

...Tyrell (not so much about the "talented racing driver" part)...

...and my favourite of all: Team Lotus.

Started by one guy in a shed to build a racing car for himself.

[~misfit~]

Post by Yazoo
I've been Hamilton's supporter since he joined F1.
On the other side I never liked Ferrari much.
So, this is a bit strange situation for me. I like him, but red car is
not my favorite.
How to deal with this? Any thoughts?

I feel the same but, as I mentioned in another post Ferrari seems... more likeable since Fred
Vasseur stamped his mark on the team. I Like Fred (he's self-effacing, something almost unheard of
in a Ferrari team principle) and he's fundamentally changed the team IMO.

[Yazoo]

On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 15:30:45 +1300, ~misfit~

Post by ~misfit~
I feel the same but, as I mentioned in another post Ferrari seems... more likeable since Fred
Vasseur stamped his mark on the team. I Like Fred (he's self-effacing, something almost unheard of
in a Ferrari team principle) and he's fundamentally changed the team IMO.

My problems with Ferrari are more historical, since they were rivals
to all my favorite drivers and teams, since seventies when I started
to follow F1, as a kid in elementary school.
I liked Fittipaldi, Hunt, Lauda, Hakkinen, Senna, Raikkonen (all
during their tenures with McLaren), Jones, Regazzoni, Reutemann, Keke
Rosberg, Mansell, Senna (again), Coultard, Hill (during their tenures
with Williams).

As you can see some of them were driving for Ferrari as well, but I
liked them more in Mclaren or Williams.

So, Ferrari was somewhat of enemy, because of their success during the
years. :)

[scole]

Post by ~misfit~

Post by Yazoo
I've been Hamilton's supporter since he joined F1.
On the other side I never liked Ferrari much.
So, this is a bit strange situation for me. I like him, but red car is
not my favorite.
How to deal with this? Any thoughts?

I feel the same but, as I mentioned in another post Ferrari seems... more likeable since Fred
Vasseur stamped his mark on the team. I Like Fred (he's self-effacing,

something almost unheard of

Post by ~misfit~
in a Ferrari team principle) and he's fundamentally changed the team IMO.

Likewise. I have been watching F1 for the thick end of 30 years and there
wasn't a single Ferrari team boss that was likeable until Fred. He comes
across as such a sincere and nice guy and, like you say, the team has
changed for the better from his influence.

I am a Hamilton fan and will cheer him on whomever he drives for, but I
can see myself becoming a Ferrari fan, too, over the next season or two.
Will still hold a torch for Williams and McLaren, as well, though, I've
got a decades-long soft spot for both those teams.

[Sir Tim]

Post by Yazoo
I've been Hamilton's supporter since he joined F1.
On the other side I never liked Ferrari much.
So, this is a bit strange situation for me. I like him, but red car is
not my favorite.
How to deal with this? Any thoughts?

I’ve been a Hamilton fan ever since I watched him trounce the opposition in
an event at the Rye House kart track when he was about 13. I would love to
see him win that eighth title and I don’t much care what car he does it in.

Sadly, I don’t think this very likely.

[Yazoo]

Post by Sir Tim
I’ve been a Hamilton fan ever since I watched him trounce the opposition in
an event at the Rye House kart track when he was about 13. I would love to
see him win that eighth title and I don’t much care what car he does it in.
Sadly, I don’t think this very likely.

I'd like to see him getting eight, as well. We will see, you never
know what new season brings.

[scole]

Post by Yazoo

I’ve been a Hamilton fan ever since I watched him trounce the opposition in
an event at the Rye House kart track when he was about 13. I would love to
see him win that eighth title and I don’t much care what car he does it in.
Sadly, I don’t think this very likely.

I'd like to see him getting eight, as well. We will see, you never
know what new season brings.

I generally have never really followed the off-season news and gossip but
this winter I have spent a lot of time trawling the Planet F1 news website
for the latest bits and pieces on Hamilton. I know I shouldn't pay much
attention to it until the cars hit the track in Australia, but I have
allowed my hopes to be built up. :)

[Alan]

Post by Sir Tim

Post by Yazoo
I've been Hamilton's supporter since he joined F1.
On the other side I never liked Ferrari much.
So, this is a bit strange situation for me. I like him, but red car is
not my favorite.
How to deal with this? Any thoughts?

I’ve been a Hamilton fan ever since I watched him trounce the opposition in
an event at the Rye House kart track when he was about 13. I would love to
see him win that eighth title and I don’t much care what car he does it in.
Sadly, I don’t think this very likely.

It certainly seems that Ferrari's form has been improving, and you just
never know whose off-season development is going to bear the the most
fruit...

...so don't give up on him yet.

[Carl Keehn]

Post by Yazoo
I've been Hamilton's supporter since he joined F1.
On the other side I never liked Ferrari much.
So, this is a bit strange situation for me. I like him, but red car is
not my favorite.
How to deal with this? Any thoughts?

Learn to like Ferrari?

Any team that can boast Niki Lauda and Michael Schumacher can't be all bad.

[pP85PrR]

Post by Carl Keehn

Post by Yazoo
I've been Hamilton's supporter since he joined F1.
On the other side I never liked Ferrari much.
So, this is a bit strange situation for me. I like him, but red car is
not my favorite.
How to deal with this? Any thoughts?

Learn to like Ferrari?
Any team that can boast Niki Lauda and Michael Schumacher can't be all bad.

For some of us, the jury is still out on Michael Schumacher. It's hard
to forget/forgive some of his more outrageous moves, taking out
opponents or his park job at Monaco to prevent anyone from beating his
to pole.

[Yazoo]

On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 09:39:26 -0500, pP85PrR

Post by pP85PrR
For some of us, the jury is still out on Michael Schumacher. It's hard
to forget/forgive some of his more outrageous moves, taking out
opponents or his park job at Monaco to prevent anyone from beating his
to pole.

That's exactly my feelings about him. I never really liked him.

It's sad what happened to him. I wish he can recover, but this is very
unlikely.

[Alan]

Post by pP85PrR

Post by Carl Keehn

Post by Yazoo
I've been Hamilton's supporter since he joined F1.
On the other side I never liked Ferrari much.
So, this is a bit strange situation for me. I like him, but red car is
not my favorite.
How to deal with this? Any thoughts?

Learn to like Ferrari?
Any team that can boast Niki Lauda and Michael Schumacher can't be all bad.

For some of us, the jury is still out on Michael Schumacher. It's hard
to forget/forgive some of his more outrageous moves, taking out
opponents or his park job at Monaco to prevent anyone from beating his
to pole.

Yup.

For all that talent that he obviously had, he out-and-out cheated to win.

Same with Prost in Japan taking out Senna. and then the FISA (i.e. its
French president, Balestre) making up on the spot that Senna hadn't
properly completed the course to hand Prost the WDC.

[Yazoo]

On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 08:52:57 -0500, Carl Keehn

Post by Carl Keehn
Learn to like Ferrari?

Tough deal! :)

Post by Carl Keehn
Any team that can boast Niki Lauda and Michael Schumacher can't be all bad.

I don't think they are bad, but I never liked them a lot (see my other
comment above).

[Alan]

Post by Yazoo
I've been Hamilton's supporter since he joined F1.
On the other side I never liked Ferrari much.
So, this is a bit strange situation for me. I like him, but red car is
not my favorite.
How to deal with this? Any thoughts?

I have to ask:

What did the "red car" ever do to upset you?

I seriously don't get this part of human nature.

[Yazoo]

Post by Alan
What did the "red car" ever do to upset you?
I seriously don't get this part of human nature.

Nothing :)

Back in seventies when I started to follow F1, I grew the dislike
feeling for them. No real reason, but personal feeling. As you said:
"human nature".
All of us have such feelings to someone or something, which we can't
explain. So be it. :)