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a425couple
2024-11-22 20:22:47 UTC
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guar's new logo and branding

Jaguar Rebrand Sparks Confusion, Angers Anti-‘Woke’ Critics

2 days ago
By Conor Murray

Radical Jaguar rebrand and new logo sparks ire online

2 days ago

Phone brand Nothing teases Jaguar’s ‘Copy Nothing’ rebrand

1 hour ago
By Brandon Doerrer

Hats off to Jaguar’s ‘inclusive’ new branding: now people of all
backgrounds won’t buy its cars

4 hours ago
By Marina Hyde

Lifelong Jaguar customer troubled by 'baffling' 'woke' rebrand: 'Going
in a very sad direction'

2 days ago
By Kristine Parks

Jaguar Rebrand Is Pink, Diverse and Doesn’t Feature Any Cars

22 hours ago
By Mengqi Sun

GREG GUTFELD: Jaguar rebrand has everyone talking when they aren't
actually puking

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Elon Musk and others pile on mocking luxury car brand’s ‘woke’ new ad:
‘Bud Light 2.0’

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Jaguar Sees Rebranding Backlash After Rolling Out Divisive, Abstract New
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Geoff
2024-11-23 10:48:06 UTC
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guar's new logo and branding
Jaguar Rebrand Sparks Confusion, Angers Anti-‘Woke’ Critics
2 days ago
By Conor Murray
Radical Jaguar rebrand and new logo sparks ire online
2 days ago
Phone brand Nothing teases Jaguar’s ‘Copy Nothing’ rebrand
1 hour ago
By Brandon Doerrer
Hats off to Jaguar’s ‘inclusive’ new branding: now people of all
backgrounds won’t buy its cars
4 hours ago
By Marina Hyde
Lifelong Jaguar customer troubled by 'baffling' 'woke' rebrand: 'Going
in a very sad direction'
2 days ago
By Kristine Parks
Jaguar Rebrand Is Pink, Diverse and Doesn’t Feature Any Cars
22 hours ago
By Mengqi Sun
GREG GUTFELD: Jaguar rebrand has everyone talking when they aren't
actually puking
14 hours ago
By Greg Gutfeld
‘Bud Light 2.0’
2 days ago
By Taylor Walters
Jaguar Sees Rebranding Backlash After Rolling Out Divisive, Abstract New
Campaign
2 days ago
By Stacey Ritzen
The insecure lash out.
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Bob Latham
2024-11-23 11:14:10 UTC
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The insecure lash out.
No.

It's the divide between rationality and objective truth on the one
hand against ideology and "feelings" on the other.


Bob.
Alan
2024-11-24 04:18:48 UTC
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The insecure lash out.
No.
It's the divide between rationality and objective truth on the one
hand against ideology and "feelings" on the other.
Describe exactly what you mean.
Bob Latham
2024-11-25 09:04:13 UTC
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The insecure lash out.
No.
It's the divide between rationality and objective truth on the one
hand against ideology and "feelings" on the other.
Describe exactly what you mean.
You know exactly what I'm saying but I'm not going to be drawn to
specifics when 'free speech' can carry a prison sentence.

Bob.
Alan
2024-11-25 16:48:58 UTC
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The insecure lash out.
No.
It's the divide between rationality and objective truth on the one
hand against ideology and "feelings" on the other.
Describe exactly what you mean.
You know exactly what I'm saying but I'm not going to be drawn to
specifics when 'free speech' can carry a prison sentence.
That's exactly what I thought...

...bigot.

I don't know if this is a good choice or not for Jaguar.

Personally, I don't think it's a very good ad for a car brand, but let's
face head on who you are as a person.
Bob Latham
2024-11-25 17:32:07 UTC
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The insecure lash out.
No.
It's the divide between rationality and objective truth on the one
hand against ideology and "feelings" on the other.
Describe exactly what you mean.
You know exactly what I'm saying but I'm not going to be drawn to
specifics when 'free speech' can carry a prison sentence.
That's exactly what I thought...
...bigot.
Under the current circumstances where people who believe in reality
as opposed to ideological nonsense and stupidity are called bigots
I'm more than happy and proud to wear that badge.

Thank you.

Bob.
Alan
2024-11-25 17:38:22 UTC
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The insecure lash out.
No.
It's the divide between rationality and objective truth on the one
hand against ideology and "feelings" on the other.
Describe exactly what you mean.
You know exactly what I'm saying but I'm not going to be drawn to
specifics when 'free speech' can carry a prison sentence.
That's exactly what I thought...
...bigot.
Under the current circumstances where people who believe in reality
as opposed to ideological nonsense and stupidity are called bigots
I'm more than happy and proud to wear that badge.
I'm sure all bigots are very happy to "wear that badge".
Bob Latham
2024-11-25 17:55:57 UTC
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Post by Geoff
The insecure lash out.
No.
It's the divide between rationality and objective truth on the one
hand against ideology and "feelings" on the other.
Describe exactly what you mean.
You know exactly what I'm saying but I'm not going to be drawn to
specifics when 'free speech' can carry a prison sentence.
That's exactly what I thought...
...bigot.
Under the current circumstances where people who believe in
reality as opposed to ideological nonsense and stupidity are
called bigots I'm more than happy and proud to wear that badge.
I'm sure all bigots are very happy to "wear that badge".
And lefties adore little more than insulting their opponents it's
always their first action. They do this because their various
arguments are so weak that they're easily demolished by people like
Douglas Murray who never fails to wipe the floor with them.

Bob.
Alan
2024-11-25 19:05:55 UTC
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Post by Bob Latham
Post by Geoff
The insecure lash out.
No.
It's the divide between rationality and objective truth on the one
hand against ideology and "feelings" on the other.
Describe exactly what you mean.
You know exactly what I'm saying but I'm not going to be drawn to
specifics when 'free speech' can carry a prison sentence.
That's exactly what I thought...
...bigot.
Under the current circumstances where people who believe in
reality as opposed to ideological nonsense and stupidity are
called bigots I'm more than happy and proud to wear that badge.
I'm sure all bigots are very happy to "wear that badge".
And lefties adore little more than insulting their opponents it's
always their first action. They do this because their various
arguments are so weak that they're easily demolished by people like
Douglas Murray who never fails to wipe the floor with them.
You're a bigot, Bob.

Plain and simple.

Judging people because they are different than you is the very heart and
soul of bigotry.
Bob Latham
2024-11-25 19:48:59 UTC
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Post by Bob Latham
Post by Geoff
The insecure lash out.
No.
It's the divide between rationality and objective truth on the one
hand against ideology and "feelings" on the other.
Describe exactly what you mean.
You know exactly what I'm saying but I'm not going to be drawn to
specifics when 'free speech' can carry a prison sentence.
That's exactly what I thought...
...bigot.
Under the current circumstances where people who believe in
reality as opposed to ideological nonsense and stupidity are
called bigots I'm more than happy and proud to wear that badge.
I'm sure all bigots are very happy to "wear that badge".
And lefties adore little more than insulting their opponents it's
always their first action. They do this because their various
arguments are so weak that they're easily demolished by people
like Douglas Murray who never fails to wipe the floor with them.
You're a bigot, Bob.
Plain and simple.
Judging people because they are different than you is the very
heart and soul of bigotry.
Sorry you don't understand my position.

I'm not judging anyone and before you say it, I don't hate anyone
either. I am however, judging current modern ideologies and religions
which deny objective truth. I'm happy for anyone to live as they
wish to live *provided* that lifestyle isn't to the detriment of
other people's lives.

My problem comes when I'm expected to say things and agree with
things that are clearly nonsense. Or indeed when I hear people making
these absurd claims especially when there are children around.

Abandoning reality because it doesn't fit modern sensitivities is the
heart and soul of stupidity. Objective truth will remain even if it's
not sayable in "progressive" company.

Bob.
Alan
2024-11-25 22:20:45 UTC
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Post by Bob Latham
Post by Geoff
The insecure lash out.
No.
It's the divide between rationality and objective truth on the one
hand against ideology and "feelings" on the other.
Describe exactly what you mean.
You know exactly what I'm saying but I'm not going to be drawn to
specifics when 'free speech' can carry a prison sentence.
That's exactly what I thought...
...bigot.
Under the current circumstances where people who believe in
reality as opposed to ideological nonsense and stupidity are
called bigots I'm more than happy and proud to wear that badge.
I'm sure all bigots are very happy to "wear that badge".
And lefties adore little more than insulting their opponents it's
always their first action. They do this because their various
arguments are so weak that they're easily demolished by people
like Douglas Murray who never fails to wipe the floor with them.
You're a bigot, Bob.
Plain and simple.
Judging people because they are different than you is the very
heart and soul of bigotry.
Sorry you don't understand my position.
I'm not judging anyone and before you say it, I don't hate anyone
either. I am however, judging current modern ideologies and religions
which deny objective truth. I'm happy for anyone to live as they
wish to live *provided* that lifestyle isn't to the detriment of
other people's lives.
My problem comes when I'm expected to say things and agree with
things that are clearly nonsense. Or indeed when I hear people making
these absurd claims especially when there are children around.
Abandoning reality because it doesn't fit modern sensitivities is the
heart and soul of stupidity. Objective truth will remain even if it's
not sayable in "progressive" company.
Who do you think you're fooling?

Racists made EXACTLY the same argument about people whose skin was a
different colour.

They claimed it was "objective truth" that certain people were inferior.
Bob Latham
2024-11-26 09:02:25 UTC
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Sorry you don't understand my position.
I'm not judging anyone and before you say it, I don't hate anyone
either. I am however, judging current modern ideologies and
religions which deny objective truth. I'm happy for anyone to
live as they wish to live *provided* that lifestyle isn't to the
detriment of other people's lives.
My problem comes when I'm expected to say things and agree with
things that are clearly nonsense. Or indeed when I hear people
making these absurd claims especially when there are children
around.
Abandoning reality because it doesn't fit modern sensitivities is
the heart and soul of stupidity. Objective truth will remain even
if it's not sayable in "progressive" company.
Who do you think you're fooling?
I don't need to make a fool of you......
Post by Alan
Racists made EXACTLY the same argument about people whose skin was
a different colour.
They claimed it was "objective truth" that certain people were
inferior.
Did "they"? Well I can't speak for others but I've not gone there or
anywhere near it.

But you raise an obvious diversion from the argument, clearly you
know your position is weak.

The truth is you believe in progressive, finger wagging crap and I
don't. I believe in immutable biological sex. The fact based belief
that the whole world believed a few short decades ago and the vast
majority of it still does.

It's only a handful of activists in the spoilt decadent west that
have such a privileged lifestyles they can afford to engage with this
ideological clap-trap. They then force their nonsense on others with
the racists or bigots, climate deniers, claims or whatever the
current insult.

It looks like most of the USA now don't care for leftist nonsense any
longer, Trump victory is overwhelming, thank God.

Like him I have seen no evidence of a climate crisis or any tangible
basis for reparations either. More leftists crap.

I see no point in further argument with you, clearly your argument is
entirely ideological. You seem to think having "nice views" and
"feelings" is paramount regardless of the need to deny objective
truth and reality itself to hold them. Good luck with that.

So call me names by all means, happy for you. :-)

Bye.

Bob.
Alan
2024-11-26 22:23:14 UTC
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Sorry you don't understand my position.
I'm not judging anyone and before you say it, I don't hate anyone
either. I am however, judging current modern ideologies and
religions which deny objective truth. I'm happy for anyone to
live as they wish to live *provided* that lifestyle isn't to the
detriment of other people's lives.
My problem comes when I'm expected to say things and agree with
things that are clearly nonsense. Or indeed when I hear people
making these absurd claims especially when there are children
around.
Abandoning reality because it doesn't fit modern sensitivities is
the heart and soul of stupidity. Objective truth will remain even
if it's not sayable in "progressive" company.
Who do you think you're fooling?
I don't need to make a fool of you......
Post by Alan
Racists made EXACTLY the same argument about people whose skin was
a different colour.
They claimed it was "objective truth" that certain people were inferior.
Did "they"? Well I can't speak for others but I've not gone there or
anywhere near it.
That is EXACTLY where you go.
Post by Bob Latham
But you raise an obvious diversion from the argument, clearly you
know your position is weak.
The truth is you believe in progressive, finger wagging crap and I
don't. I believe in immutable biological sex. The fact based belief
that the whole world believed a few short decades ago and the vast
majority of it still does.
You do, huh?

Then you don't understand biology to begin with.

And there was a time when the "vast majority" of people thought the
world was flat.
Post by Bob Latham
It's only a handful of activists in the spoilt decadent west that
have such a privileged lifestyles they can afford to engage with this
ideological clap-trap. They then force their nonsense on others with
the racists or bigots, climate deniers, claims or whatever the
current insult.
It looks like most of the USA now don't care for leftist nonsense any
longer, Trump victory is overwhelming, thank God.
1. It was NOT "overwhelming": it was one of the smallest margins of
victory (if it proves to truly BE a margin) in quite a while.
Post by Bob Latham
Like him I have seen no evidence of a climate crisis or any tangible
basis for reparations either. More leftists crap.
Really?

Arctic sea ice minimum extent is going down and down. So is the Antarctic:

https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph

Glaciers have receded tremendously:

<https://www.nps.gov/glac/learn/nature/glaciersoverview.htm>

Those are undeniable facts.

The "reparations" crack is interesting, though.

You bringing up race seems like maybe it is one your mind.
Post by Bob Latham
I see no point in further argument with you, clearly your argument is
entirely ideological. You seem to think having "nice views" and
"feelings" is paramount regardless of the need to deny objective
truth and reality itself to hold them. Good luck with that.
I think that what other people feel about themselves is none of my
business and not a problem of any kind. I don't think they're any more
(or any less) dangerous to others than any other people; except that the
pain they're caused by your kind might make them lash out.

OTOH, you hate them because they don't think and feel as you do.

In an earlier age, yeah: you'd absolutely have been a racist, too (if
you're not one right now).
Bob Latham
2024-11-27 09:56:50 UTC
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Sorry you don't understand my position.
I'm not judging anyone and before you say it, I don't hate anyone
either. I am however, judging current modern ideologies and
religions which deny objective truth. I'm happy for anyone to
live as they wish to live *provided* that lifestyle isn't to the
detriment of other people's lives.
My problem comes when I'm expected to say things and agree with
things that are clearly nonsense. Or indeed when I hear people
making these absurd claims especially when there are children
around.
Abandoning reality because it doesn't fit modern sensitivities is
the heart and soul of stupidity. Objective truth will remain even
if it's not sayable in "progressive" company.
Who do you think you're fooling?
I don't need to make a fool of you......
Post by Alan
Racists made EXACTLY the same argument about people whose skin was
a different colour.
They claimed it was "objective truth" that certain people were inferior.
Did "they"? Well I can't speak for others but I've not gone
there or anywhere near it.
That is EXACTLY where you go.
So you can show evidence of me saying that black people are inferior?

No you can't because I've never thought that let alone said it, so
that makes you a liar.

It's just another case of you have no sensible arguments so you
insult.
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Post by Bob Latham
But you raise an obvious diversion from the argument, clearly you
know your position is weak.
The truth is you believe in progressive, finger wagging crap and I
don't. I believe in immutable biological sex. The fact based belief
that the whole world believed a few short decades ago and the vast
majority of it still does.
You do, huh?
Then you don't understand biology to begin with.
[Snip leftists nonsense]

You choose to ignore rationality and reality and even the evidence of
your own eyes so that you can be a member of a modern religion and
cult. You swallow all the crap the leftist lying media throw at you
with alacrity.

You cannot change sex, it is unhinged to claim otherwise.

For the record, The earth's temperature is determined by 3 major
factors; TSI, Atmospheric pressure and cloud albedo. Any effect by
atmosphere gases if it exists at all is trivial in the extreme, It's
doubtful if their effect is even measurable.

Short term ocean temperature rises which lead to atmosphere warming
and increased moisture come from hundreds of under sea volcanos.

Did you know the highest 5 temperatures every recorded in Australia
were all before 1912 ?

Have you seen the (untampered) temperature records for the USA in the
1930s? Far hotter and far longer heat waves than at any time since.
I'm looking at a graph from the EPA United States Environmental
Protection Agency. Massive difference in heat and duration. You think
it's hot now? You've not done your homework mate.


June 29th 1901 New York, newspaper headlines...
Temperature 98 to 106 in the shade - many dead and prostrated.

July 1st 1901. The city a furnace and virtually deserted.

July 2nd, 87 dead and 178 prostrations.

July 3rd 1901 heat brings death to over 200 people.

July 4th 1901 200 more dead before rain falls.

In Italy in 1901, vineyards in entire districts have been shrivelled
up and ruined to the very roots as though set on fire.

1911 Another heatwave killed thousands in New England, people
committed suicide to escape the heat. In Paris more than 40,000
people died in the heatwave of 1911.

Yes, it does say 40,000 dead in Paris from a heatwave in 1911,
Imagine what the BBC would say about that if anything like it
happened today. They would have predicted the end of the world and
they would have been wrong.

These newspaper clippings are all on line for you to see, do research
and stop listening to the corrupt media.

CO2 = 0.04% of the atmosphere.
96% of that is natural and nothing to do with man.
1% of the remains is UK produced.

UK going netzero will:
Not reduce the rate of CO2 climb at all.
Will not effect the climate or weather.
Will not convince China India, etc. to go netzero, they have real
issues to deal with.
All it will do is make Britain poor and cold. People who advocate
this crap are dangerous, ignorant fools. It will cost lives.

See this excellent video spelling out realities about the world and
climate change, netzero, watch and learn. It's a rational argument.


Global boiling my arse, you're being lied to, successfully. I realise
I'm wasting my time, you cannot reason someone out of a brainwashed
state. You have my condolences.

You can now have the last word I'm out.






Bob.
Geoff
2024-11-27 23:42:50 UTC
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It looks like most of the USA now don't care for leftist nonsense any
longer, Trump victory is overwhelming, thank God.
Like him I have seen no evidence of a climate crisis or any tangible
basis for reparations either. More leftists crap.
'Like him', I'm so relieved that you have a better understanding of
climate science than the vast vast majority (as in all but a tiny few
with wacky alternative agendas) of those who have spent their academic
and professional lives studying that sort of thing.
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geoff
Bob Latham
2024-11-28 09:27:28 UTC
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Post by Bob Latham
It looks like most of the USA now don't care for leftist nonsense
any longer, Trump victory is overwhelming, thank God.
Like him I have seen no evidence of a climate crisis or any
tangible basis for reparations either. More leftists crap.
'Like him', I'm so relieved that you have a better understanding of
climate science than the vast vast majority (as in all but a tiny
few with wacky alternative agendas) of those who have spent their
academic and professional lives studying that sort of thing.
Oh, the consensus argument, that old chestnut!

So the recent document by over 1000 scientists many of them household
names, plenty of people who know their stuff like Will Happer,
Richard Lindzen, John Clauser, Willie Soon, Ivar Giaever, Bill
kininmonth and there are over a thousand more who say there is no
climate emergency.
I'll go with them, thanks.

Of course the woke, leftist media do not publicize their work and
documents because they are willful liars with a political agenda.

Plus, it's obvious that people will agree with the hand that feeds
them. If the ipcc etc. were to say the truth, ie. we can find nothing
to worry about with regard to CO2 and the climate then those people
would all be looking for a job the next day, so what are they going
to say?

Science is never about consensus, just about every scientific
discovery comes from 1 or 2 people, not a consensus.

It matters not how many scientists say they agree or how great their
names are. The acid test is 'do their predictions come true'? Every
single climate prediction that has ever been made has failed
miserably to materialize. The poles should have melted by 2014
according to Al Gore 2007.

In 2009 our King said we only had 96 months save the world.

About 6 years ago saint Greta claimed we would be doomed by some
recent date, can't remember, it came it passed, nothing happened.
She's since deleted that post.

The list of failed doomsday predictions goes on and on. They don't
worry about their failures they just make another absurd prediction.
The media report the latest predictions with glea but never mention
the failures. They're corrupt.

The Climate agenda has nothing to do with climate. If it had, then
the delegates for conferences would not fly in private jets and would
use video conferencing, we have that technology. If it had, rich
people would not be investing in Pacific islands that are predicted
to disappear under the ocean imminently but they build hotels and
runways just above sea level.

Obama buys luxury property at Martha's Vineyard which is at sea level
isn't it, obvious he's worried.

No, It's about money and control of YOU!

Seriously, if you're interested in the science truth then this video
is about as close as you can get. Very educational long and detailed,
even talks about SDI, a brilliant watch. If you've not seen it you
need to.

Will Happer:



Bob.

Geoff
2024-11-26 01:12:46 UTC
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The insecure lash out.
No.
It's the divide between rationality and objective truth on the one
hand against ideology and "feelings" on the other.
Describe exactly what you mean.
You know exactly what I'm saying but I'm not going to be drawn to
specifics when 'free speech' can carry a prison sentence.
That's exactly what I thought...
...bigot.
Under the current circumstances where people who believe in reality
as opposed to ideological nonsense and stupidity are called bigots
I'm more than happy and proud to wear that badge.
I'm sure all bigots are very happy to "wear that badge".
And the cap.
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geoff
Woozy Song
2024-11-25 01:51:47 UTC
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guar's new logo and branding
Jaguar Rebrand Sparks Confusion, Angers Anti-‘Woke’ Critics
2 days ago
By Conor Murray
Radical Jaguar rebrand and new logo sparks ire online
2 days ago
Phone brand Nothing teases Jaguar’s ‘Copy Nothing’ rebrand
1 hour ago
By Brandon Doerrer
Hats off to Jaguar’s ‘inclusive’ new branding: now people of all
backgrounds won’t buy its cars
I mostly see Jags at the golf club, driven by grey-haired men.
Bob Latham
2024-11-25 08:59:15 UTC
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guar's new logo and branding
Jaguar Rebrand Sparks Confusion, Angers Anti-Woke‘ Critics
2 days ago
By Conor Murray
Radical Jaguar rebrand and new logo sparks ire online
2 days ago
Phone brand Nothing teases Jaguar‘s Copy Nothing‘ rebrand
1 hour ago
By Brandon Doerrer
Hats off to Jaguar‘s inclusive‘ new branding: now people of all
backgrounds won‘t buy its cars
I mostly see Jags at the golf club, driven by grey-haired men.
True. They made cars that many men aspired to all their lives but
were not able to afford until later in life.

Bob.
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