Another 'Pointless' F1 Question

[Brian Lawrence]

On last evening's episode of the BBC 1 series Pointless the
round one question was:

Name as many F1 drivers with at least 10 GP wins

To remind those at the back, the question had been asked of
100 people who each had 100 seconds to answer. The contestants on the
programme are aiming to find the answers that the fewest of the 100
could think of.

On the program they were told that there were around 30 names (actually
32). Since this was round one there were four pairs of contestants so
there were 8 answers given - only 5 of which were correct.

After the round ended the list of pointless answers was given (5) plus
the low scores (3 x 1 & 5 x 3) and the 3 highest scoring answers.

I'll reveal the numbers later (maybe tomorrow).

Note: The 100 people were asked the questions online, but we don't know
who they are. It can be surmised they were asked in early 2013 (but I
don't think any driver has reached 10 wins since then).

[Mark Jackson]

Post by Brian Lawrence
Note: The 100 people were asked the questions online, but we don't
know who they are. It can be surmised they were asked in early 2013
(but I don't think any driver has reached 10 wins since then).

True, although before the 2013 season it was perhaps better than even
odds that one more would.

[Halmyre]

On last evening's episode of the BBC 1 series Pointless the round one question was: Name as many F1 drivers with at least 10 GP wins To remind those at the back, the question had been asked of 100 people who each had 100 seconds to answer. The contestants on the programme are aiming to find the answers that the fewest of the 100 could think of. On the program they were told that there were around 30 names (actually 32). Since this was round one there were four pairs of contestants so there were 8 answers given - only 5 of which were correct. After the round ended the list of pointless answers was given (5) plus the low scores (3 x 1 & 5 x 3) and the 3 highest scoring answers. I'll reveal the numbers later (maybe tomorrow). Note: The 100 people were asked the questions online, but we don't know who they are. It can be surmised they were asked in early 2013 (but I don't think any driver has reached 10 wins since then).

I would have said Ickx...

Looking at the Wiki list, I'll guess Berger, Peterson, Reutemann, Barrichello, Ascari for the pointless answers.

[Mark]

Post by Halmyre
I would have said Ickx...
Looking at the Wiki list, I'll guess Berger, Peterson, Reutemann,
Barrichello, Ascari for the pointless answers.

I would have said (from most certain to least) Ascari, Jones, Arnoux.

Now I look at the wiki list, I am pretty sure I'd have walked away with
nothing!

[a425couple]

Post by Brian Lawrence
On last evening's episode of the BBC 1 series Pointless the
Name as many F1 drivers with at least 10 GP wins
To remind those at the back, the question had been asked of
100 people who each had 100 seconds to answer. The contestants on the
programme are aiming to find the answers that the fewest of the 100
could think of.

So, as I understand it, you want us to give a correct answer/name,
that few in England, will have given????

I'd say Carlos Reutemann
(He is/was not English,
he never won the WDC,
he retired in 1982, so most now, will have never heard of,
or will have forgotten.)

Post by Brian Lawrence
On the program they were told that there were around 30 names (actually
32). Since this was round one there were four pairs of contestants so
there were 8 answers given - only 5 of which were correct.

Is that meaning, I should also pick a 2nd name???
If so, I'll go Gerhard Berger (many the same reasons)

[Brian Lawrence]

Post by Brian Lawrence
On last evening's episode of the BBC 1 series Pointless the
Name as many F1 drivers with at least 10 GP wins
To remind those at the back, the question had been asked of
100 people who each had 100 seconds to answer. The contestants on the
programme are aiming to find the answers that the fewest of the 100
could think of.

So, as I understand it, you want us to give a correct answer/name, that
few in England, will have given????

That's the idea - though not just in England. Some of the 100 might have
been in Scotland, Wales or Ireland (north or republic). The Scots if any
might remember some of their own. (I realise 'England' is equivalent to
the UK.) :-)

I'd say Carlos Reutemann (He is/was not English, he never won the WDC,
he retired in 1982, so most now, will have never heard of, or will have
forgotten.)

Post by Brian Lawrence
On the program they were told that there were around 30 names
(actually 32). Since this was round one there were four pairs of
contestants so
there were 8 answers given - only 5 of which were correct.

Is that meaning, I should also pick a 2nd name???
If so, I'll go Gerhard Berger (many the same reasons)

Well you can pick as many or as few as you wish, you could also try and
recall all 32 without cheating :-)

[a425couple]

Post by Brian Lawrence

On last evening's episode of the BBC 1 series ---
To remind those at the back, the question had been asked of
100 people who each had 100 seconds to answer. ---

So, as I understand it, you want us to give a correct answer/name, that
few in England, will have given????

That's the idea - though not just in England. Some of the 100 might have
been in Scotland, Wales or Ireland (north or republic). The Scots if any
might remember some of their own.
(I realise 'England' is equivalent to the UK.) :-)

Actually, I'm fairly understanding of the differences (England & UK),
but since BBC is headquartered in London, and it sounded like
it was 'host', like asking 'people in the street' the questions,,,,
just did not think they would take the trouble of sending
an employee up/over to Northern Ireland to ask the question,,,, ?
(AIUI, unless airplane, it 9 hour drive & ferry,
lots of tolls & 96 pound fuel cost).

But sure, if it is not the same person asking the question
of all 100, sure, fine, use a reporter in Belfast.

(Love the wiki description, "It is variously described as a country,
province or region of the UK, amongst other terms---"
Well F- man, if they don't know what the correct word is-----?! )

[Lord Charles]

a425couple scribbled...

Post by a425couple

Post by Brian Lawrence

On last evening's episode of the BBC 1 series ---
To remind those at the back, the question had been asked of
100 people who each had 100 seconds to answer. ---

So, as I understand it, you want us to give a correct answer/name, that
few in England, will have given????

That's the idea - though not just in England. Some of the 100 might have
been in Scotland, Wales or Ireland (north or republic). The Scots if any
might remember some of their own.
(I realise 'England' is equivalent to the UK.) :-)

Actually, I'm fairly understanding of the differences (England & UK),
but since BBC is headquartered in London, and it sounded like
it was 'host', like asking 'people in the street' the questions,,,,
just did not think they would take the trouble of sending
an employee up/over to Northern Ireland to ask the question,,,, ?
(AIUI, unless airplane, it 9 hour drive & ferry,
lots of tolls & 96 pound fuel cost).
But sure, if it is not the same person asking the question
of all 100, sure, fine, use a reporter in Belfast.
(Love the wiki description, "It is variously described as a country,
province or region of the UK, amongst other terms---"
Well F- man, if they don't know what the correct word is-----?! )

Pointless might be shown on the BBC, but it is not made by the BBC.

[a425couple]

"a425couple" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message...

Opps!

Post by Brian Lawrence
Note: The 100 people were asked the questions online,

Sorry about that!

But somehow timed to 100 seconds & told to not cheat!

Post by Brian Lawrence

Post by Brian Lawrence

On last evening's episode of the BBC 1 series ---
To remind those at the back, the question had been asked of
100 people who each had 100 seconds to answer. ---

So, as I understand it, you want us to give a correct answer/name, that
few in England, will have given????

That's the idea - though not just in England. Some of the 100 might have
been in Scotland, Wales or Ireland (north or republic). The Scots if any
might remember some of their own.
(I realise 'England' is equivalent to the UK.) :-)

Actually, I'm fairly understanding of the differences (England & UK),
but since BBC is headquartered in London, and it sounded like
it was 'host', like asking 'people in the street' the questions,,,,
just did not think they would take the trouble of sending
an employee up/over to Northern Ireland to ask the question,,,, ?
(AIUI, unless airplane, it 9 hour drive & ferry,
lots of tolls & 96 pound fuel cost).
But sure, if it is not the same person asking the question
of all 100, sure, fine, use a reporter in Belfast.
(Love the wiki description, "It is variously described as a country,
province or region of the UK, amongst other terms---"
Well F- man, if they don't know what the correct word is-----?! )

[Brian Lawrence]

Post by a425couple
Actually, I'm fairly understanding of the differences (England & UK),
but since BBC is headquartered in London, and it sounded like it was
'host', like asking 'people in the street' the questions,,,, just did
not think they would take the trouble of sending an employee up/over to
Northern Ireland to ask the question,,,, ? (AIUI, unless airplane, it 9
hour drive & ferry, lots of tolls & 96 pound fuel cost).

One afterthought, the BBC has premises all over the UK, and has recently
tried to diversify by moving Sport and Breakfast TV to Salford in
Manchester. The various regions of England plus Scotland, Wales &
Northern Ireland also have their own studios and programming. Doctor
Who is shot in Cardiff as are quite a few other dramas.

[shazzbat]

Post by Brian Lawrence
On last evening's episode of the BBC 1 series Pointless the
Name as many F1 drivers with at least 10 GP wins
To remind those at the back, the question had been asked of
100 people who each had 100 seconds to answer. The contestants on the
programme are aiming to find the answers that the fewest of the 100 could
think of.
On the program they were told that there were around 30 names (actually
32). Since this was round one there were four pairs of contestants so
there were 8 answers given - only 5 of which were correct.
After the round ended the list of pointless answers was given (5) plus
the low scores (3 x 1 & 5 x 3) and the 3 highest scoring answers.
I'll reveal the numbers later (maybe tomorrow).
Note: The 100 people were asked the questions online, but we don't know
who they are. It can be surmised they were asked in early 2013 (but I
don't think any driver has reached 10 wins since then).

I was watching, and I felt for the contestant who guessed Eddie Irvine and
was told no, he only won 4. I was screaming at the telly "He would have won
10, but he had to give 6 to Schumacher"

Steve

[Brian Lawrence]

The answers given were:

Player

A1 Mika Häkkinen 4
B1 M Schumacher 55
C1 Eddie Irvine X (100)
D1 Niki Lauda 9

D2 Fernando Alonso 9
C2 JP Montoya X (100)
B2 Alain Prost 23
A2 Gilles Villeneuve X (100)
Players B2 & A2 knew that they were through to round 2 because
team C had scored an unbeatable 200. They were able to give either a
'safe' answer knowing the higher score would be sufficient, or
a 'risky' answer knowing that a wrong answer (100 points) was
also sufficient.

Pointless answers - none of the 100 people gave:

Jacques Villeneuve
Alan Jones
Carlos Reutemann
Mario Andretti
Ronnie Peterson

Low scores:

Jody Scheckter 1
Gerhard Berger 1
Rubens Barrichello 1

Nelson Piquet 3
David Coulthard 3
Emerson Fittipaldi 3
Felipe Massa 3
Alberto Ascari 3

Highest Scores:

M Schumacher 55
Ayrton Senna 36
Stirling Moss 32

As with many of the questions it's better to give answers that are
not British and not recent, since most of the 100 will be less likely to
remember those.

A frequent comment from younger contestants about what to them are
ancient events is 'I wasn't even born then'. 'Ancient' might be 1960s
pop music, 1970s films, 1980s TV, etc.

[Lord Charles]

Brian Lawrence scribbled...

Post by Brian Lawrence
A frequent comment from younger contestants about what to them are
ancient events is 'I wasn't even born then'. 'Ancient' might be 1960s
pop music, 1970s films, 1980s TV, etc.

They need to get Sir Tim on their team !





Runs away

[a425couple]

Post by Brian Lawrence
Player
A1 Mika Häkkinen 4
B1 M Schumacher 55
C1 Eddie Irvine X (100)
D1 Niki Lauda 9
D2 Fernando Alonso 9
C2 JP Montoya X (100)
B2 Alain Prost 23
A2 Gilles Villeneuve X (100)
Players B2 & A2 knew that they were through to round 2 because
team C had scored an unbeatable 200. They were able to give either a
'safe' answer knowing the higher score would be sufficient, or
a 'risky' answer knowing that a wrong answer (100 points) was
also sufficient.
Jacques Villeneuve
Alan Jones
Carlos Reutemann

Ahhhaa! I at least partly understand the rules of this
stupid pointless game!!!

But, WTF? Nobody thought of Alan Jones, a driver of
the British Commonwealth and WDC??!!
Ahh, I guess for some, win them pride, retire, and they
put you off to the dustbin of their minds.

But, how do you account for someone even thinking of Montoya?
Ahh, maybe our NASCAR is watched there more than
they make on?

snip

[Phil Carmody]

Post by a425couple

Post by Brian Lawrence
Player
A1 Mika Häkkinen 4
B1 M Schumacher 55
C1 Eddie Irvine X (100)
D1 Niki Lauda 9
D2 Fernando Alonso 9
C2 JP Montoya X (100)
B2 Alain Prost 23
A2 Gilles Villeneuve X (100)
Players B2 & A2 knew that they were through to round 2 because
team C had scored an unbeatable 200. They were able to give either a
'safe' answer knowing the higher score would be sufficient, or
a 'risky' answer knowing that a wrong answer (100 points) was
also sufficient.
Jacques Villeneuve
Alan Jones
Carlos Reutemann

Ahhhaa! I at least partly understand the rules of this
stupid pointless game!!!
But, WTF? Nobody thought of Alan Jones, a driver of
the British Commonwealth and WDC??!!
Ahh, I guess for some, win them pride, retire, and they
put you off to the dustbin of their minds.
But, how do you account for someone even thinking of Montoya?
Ahh, maybe our NASCAR is watched there more than
they make on?

What's so bizarre about answering someone who had 7 wins?
Are you trying to pretend he was a complete failure in the
sport or something?

Phil

[a425couple]

Post by Phil Carmody

Post by a425couple

Post by Brian Lawrence
Player
C2 JP Montoya X (100)
a 'risky' answer knowing that a wrong answer (100 points) was
also sufficient.
Jacques Villeneuve
Alan Jones
Carlos Reutemann

Ahhhaa! I at least partly understand the rules of this
stupid pointless game!!!
But, WTF? Nobody thought of Alan Jones, a driver of
the British Commonwealth and WDC??!!
Ahh, I guess for some, win them pride, retire, and they
put you off to the dustbin of their minds.
But, how do you account for someone even thinking of Montoya?
Ahh, maybe our NASCAR is watched there more than
they make on?

What's so bizarre about answering someone who had 7 wins?

Not "bizarre", but seems unusual.
As Brian and I both separately noted the trend
would be toward UK drivers, and more recent,
and he did not meet the 'spec' of 10 wins,,,, but
I suppose close enough for most memories,

Post by Phil Carmody
Are you trying to pretend he was a complete failure in the
sport or something?

Not at all!
I think it's very interesting that he won 6 (or 7) GPs out of 94 starts,
which was much better than he did in NASCAR SPRINT Cup!!

Meanwhile, just to save the site:
http://jalopnik.com/5944075/if-you-think-driving-on-an-oval-is-easy-youre-an-idiot

[larkim]

Post by a425couple

Post by Phil Carmody

Post by a425couple

Post by Brian Lawrence
Player
C2 JP Montoya X (100)
a 'risky' answer knowing that a wrong answer (100 points) was
also sufficient.
Jacques Villeneuve
Alan Jones
Carlos Reutemann

Ahhhaa! I at least partly understand the rules of this
stupid pointless game!!!
But, WTF? Nobody thought of Alan Jones, a driver of
the British Commonwealth and WDC??!!
Ahh, I guess for some, win them pride, retire, and they
put you off to the dustbin of their minds.
But, how do you account for someone even thinking of Montoya?
Ahh, maybe our NASCAR is watched there more than
they make on?

What's so bizarre about answering someone who had 7 wins?

Not "bizarre", but seems unusual.
As Brian and I both separately noted the trend
would be toward UK drivers, and more recent,
and he did not meet the 'spec' of 10 wins,,,, but
I suppose close enough for most memories,

I suppose the fact that he drove for both Williams and McLaren (i.e. staunchly British teams) probably meant he was more in the popular mind than others.

[~misfit~]

Post by a425couple

Post by Brian Lawrence
Player
A1 Mika Häkkinen 4
B1 M Schumacher 55
C1 Eddie Irvine X (100)
D1 Niki Lauda 9
D2 Fernando Alonso 9
C2 JP Montoya X (100)
B2 Alain Prost 23
A2 Gilles Villeneuve X (100)
Players B2 & A2 knew that they were through to round 2 because
team C had scored an unbeatable 200. They were able to give either a
'safe' answer knowing the higher score would be sufficient, or
a 'risky' answer knowing that a wrong answer (100 points) was
also sufficient.
Jacques Villeneuve
Alan Jones
Carlos Reutemann

Ahhhaa! I at least partly understand the rules of this
stupid pointless game!!!

Likewise - and it makes me wonder why anyone wold even watch it. <shrug>

Post by a425couple
But, WTF? Nobody thought of Alan Jones, a driver of
the British Commonwealth and WDC??!!
Ahh, I guess for some, win them pride, retire, and they
put you off to the dustbin of their minds.
But, how do you account for someone even thinking of Montoya?
Ahh, maybe our NASCAR is watched there more than
they make on?

Ummm, maybe because Montoya was in F1 from 2001 - 2006 and Jones was way
back in 1975 - 1986?

Not everybody is of an age comparable with the majority of this newsgroup.
;)

[Bigbird]

Post by ~misfit~

Post by a425couple
Ahhhaa! I at least partly understand the rules of this
stupid pointless game!!!

Likewise - and it makes me wonder why anyone wold even watch it. <shrug>

Having an answer is relatively easy, having a very good answer is quite
a challenge. In that respect it will appeal to many.

Of course others a left wondering.

[shazzbat]

Post by Bigbird

Post by ~misfit~

Post by a425couple
Ahhhaa! I at least partly understand the rules of this
stupid pointless game!!!

Likewise - and it makes me wonder why anyone wold even watch it. <shrug>

Having an answer is relatively easy, having a very good answer is quite
a challenge. In that respect it will appeal to many.
Of course others a left wondering.

It has the advantage of being on immediately before the 1800 news. So people
turning on for the news are likely to get to see some of it. Also the quiz
aspect of it is not its only attraction, many find the
interaction/banter/what have you between the presenters Alexander Armstrong
and Richard Osman, and the contestants, and even occasionally the studio
audience, amusing. Both presenters are sharp characters, and both have
featured in shows like Have I got news for you etc.

I would certainly rather watch it than any of the contrived drivel that
involves voting for/against a load of wannabes or alleged cebrities for
their cooking or their dancing/singing etc.

Steve

[Bigbird]

Post by shazzbat

Post by Bigbird

Post by ~misfit~

Post by a425couple
Ahhhaa! I at least partly understand the rules of this
stupid pointless game!!!

Likewise - and it makes me wonder why anyone wold even watch it. <shrug>

Having an answer is relatively easy, having a very good answer is
quite a challenge. In that respect it will appeal to many.
Of course others a left wondering.

It has the advantage of being on immediately before the 1800 news. So
people turning on for the news are likely to get to see some of it.
Also the quiz aspect of it is not its only attraction, many find the
interaction/banter/what have you between the presenters Alexander
Armstrong and Richard Osman, and the contestants, and even
occasionally the studio audience, amusing. Both presenters are sharp
characters, and both have featured in shows like Have I got news for
you etc.

I have been surprised by the wit of Richard Osman in several other
shows. A true off the cuff wit and clever with it.

[a425couple]

Post by shazzbat

Post by Bigbird

Post by ~misfit~

Post by a425couple
Ahhhaa! I at least partly understand the rules of this
stupid pointless game!!!

Likewise - and it makes me wonder why anyone wold even watch it. <shrug>

Having an answer is relatively easy, having a very good answer is quite
a challenge. In that respect it will appeal to many.

Now that I at least partly understand the rules,
I agree with your observation / opinion.

Post by shazzbat

Post by Bigbird
Of course others a left wondering.

It has the advantage of being on immediately before the 1800 news. So
people turning on for the news are likely to get to see some of it. Also
the quiz aspect of it is not its only attraction, many find the
interaction/banter/what have you between the presenters Alexander
Armstrong and Richard Osman, and the contestants, and even occasionally
the studio audience, amusing. Both presenters are sharp characters, and
both have featured in shows like Have I got news for you etc.
I would certainly rather watch it than any of the contrived drivel that
involves voting for/against a load of wannabes or alleged cebrities for
their cooking or their dancing/singing etc.

Thanks for the background information.

[Brian Lawrence]

Post by Brian Lawrence
On last evening's episode of the BBC 1 series Pointless the

[snip]

On the following day's episode there was a question about Brazil
where 5 clues were given to facts about Brazil. One was '3-time
F1 champion, about whom a 2010 documentary was made'. Only 37
people knew the answer.

[Lord Charles]

Brian Lawrence scribbled...

Post by Brian Lawrence

Post by Brian Lawrence
On last evening's episode of the BBC 1 series Pointless the

[snip]
On the following day's episode there was a question about Brazil
where 5 clues were given to facts about Brazil. One was '3-time
F1 champion, about whom a 2010 documentary was made'. Only 37
people knew the answer.

The question was about "Brazil and Brazilians".

I was hoping it would be a picture question!