Russell's car too light

[Woozy Song]

In another forum, a zillion posters said because he did 1-stop that he
wore a few kg extra rubber off the tyres. But then would not the tyres
be unsafe in the final laps?

[Alan]

Post by Woozy Song
In another forum, a zillion posters said because he did 1-stop that he
wore a few kg extra rubber off the tyres. But then would not the tyres
be unsafe in the final laps?

Not necessarily.

Pirelli will have given the teams so data on how many laps the tires can
run safely; which is not to say quickly.

It was a real shame.

Russell made a very bold call, and did make it stick on the track.

And if Spa had the traditional cool down lap, he could probably have
picked up enough rubber to have made minimum weight.

[Geoff]

Post by Alan

Post by Woozy Song
In another forum, a zillion posters said because he did 1-stop that he
wore a few kg extra rubber off the tyres. But then would not the tyres
be unsafe in the final laps?

Not necessarily.
Pirelli will have given the teams so data on how many laps the tires can
run safely; which is not to say quickly.
It was a real shame.
Russell made a very bold call, and did make it stick on the track.
And if Spa had the traditional cool down lap, he could probably have
picked up enough rubber to have made minimum weight.

Yes, he went pretty much straight in. But so did the others ...

Not to suggest 1.5KG would have likely made a difference to HAM passing him.

geoff

[~misfit~]

Post by Geoff

Post by Alan

In another forum, a zillion posters said because he did 1-stop that he wore a few kg extra
rubber off the tyres. But then would not the tyres be unsafe in the final laps?

Not necessarily.
Pirelli will have given the teams so data on how many laps the tires can run safely; which is not
to say quickly.
It was a real shame.
Russell made a very bold call, and did make it stick on the track.
And if Spa had the traditional cool down lap, he could probably have picked up enough rubber to
have made minimum weight.

Yes, he went pretty much straight in. But so did the others ...

Yeah, as Spa is such a long lap they don't do a cool down lap, they go into the pitlane backwards.

Post by Geoff
Not to suggest 1.5KG would have likely made a difference to HAM passing him.

Well it sorta did though. ;)

[Alan]

Post by Geoff

Post by Alan

Post by Woozy Song
In another forum, a zillion posters said because he did 1-stop that
he wore a few kg extra rubber off the tyres. But then would not the
tyres be unsafe in the final laps?

Not necessarily.
Pirelli will have given the teams so data on how many laps the tires
can run safely; which is not to say quickly.
It was a real shame.
Russell made a very bold call, and did make it stick on the track.
And if Spa had the traditional cool down lap, he could probably have
picked up enough rubber to have made minimum weight.

Yes, he went pretty much straight in. But so did the others ...
Not to suggest 1.5KG would have likely made a difference to HAM passing him.

If his car was 1.5kg lighter when it was weighed, and he wasn't carrying
a different amount of fuel than Hamilton, then at every fuel load, his
car was lighter.

Could 1.5kg over the entire race distance put him half a second ahead at
the end? Yes.

[Alan]

Post by Geoff

Post by Alan

Post by Woozy Song
In another forum, a zillion posters said because he did 1-stop that
he wore a few kg extra rubber off the tyres. But then would not the
tyres be unsafe in the final laps?

Not necessarily.
Pirelli will have given the teams so data on how many laps the tires
can run safely; which is not to say quickly.
It was a real shame.
Russell made a very bold call, and did make it stick on the track.
And if Spa had the traditional cool down lap, he could probably have
picked up enough rubber to have made minimum weight.

Yes, he went pretty much straight in. But so did the others ...

And to be clear, I'm not excusing it because of this.

[~misfit~]

In another forum, a zillion posters said because he did 1-stop that he wore a few kg extra rubber
off the tyres. But then would not the tyres be unsafe in the final laps?

The other forum is filled with clowns. It's nothing to do with the tyres, Merc have admitted it was
their error. (Often a light car is ballasted up to weight and I dare say that this was done
incorrectly.)

[~misfit~]

Post by ~misfit~

In another forum, a zillion posters said because he did 1-stop that he wore a few kg extra rubber
off the tyres. But then would not the tyres be unsafe in the final laps?

The other forum is filled with clowns. It's nothing to do with the tyres, Merc have admitted it was
their error. (Often a light car is ballasted up to weight and I dare say that this was done
incorrectly.)

Ehhh... I've just done some quick reading and Mark Hughes thinks it WAS the tyres (and lack of a
cooldown lap to pickup marbles?). <shrug> Buggered if I know, I could have been wrong above. I
remember the days when engineers always told the driver to be sure to get plenty of tyre pickup on
the cooldown lap but haven't heard anything like that for ... decades?

[Geoff]

Post by ~misfit~

Post by ~misfit~

Post by Woozy Song
In another forum, a zillion posters said because he did 1-stop that
he wore a few kg extra rubber off the tyres. But then would not the
tyres be unsafe in the final laps?

The other forum is filled with clowns. It's nothing to do with the
tyres, Merc have admitted it was their error. (Often a light car is
ballasted up to weight and I dare say that this was done incorrectly.)

Ehhh... I've just done some quick reading and Mark Hughes thinks it WAS
the tyres (and lack of a cooldown lap to pickup marbles?). <shrug>
Buggered if I know, I could have been wrong above. I remember the days
when engineers always told the driver to be sure to get plenty of tyre
pickup on the cooldown lap but haven't heard anything like that for ...
decades?

I hear it all the time .

geoff

[~misfit~]

Post by Geoff

Post by ~misfit~

Post by ~misfit~

In another forum, a zillion posters said because he did 1-stop that he wore a few kg extra
rubber off the tyres. But then would not the tyres be unsafe in the final laps?

The other forum is filled with clowns. It's nothing to do with the tyres, Merc have admitted it
was their error. (Often a light car is ballasted up to weight and I dare say that this was done
incorrectly.)

Ehhh... I've just done some quick reading and Mark Hughes thinks it WAS the tyres (and lack of a
cooldown lap to pickup marbles?). <shrug> Buggered if I know, I could have been wrong above. I
remember the days when engineers always told the driver to be sure to get plenty of tyre pickup
on the cooldown lap but haven't heard anything like that for ... decades?

I hear it all the time .

Ok. I don't.

[Alan]

Post by Geoff

Post by ~misfit~

Post by ~misfit~

Post by Woozy Song
In another forum, a zillion posters said because he did 1-stop that
he wore a few kg extra rubber off the tyres. But then would not the
tyres be unsafe in the final laps?

The other forum is filled with clowns. It's nothing to do with the
tyres, Merc have admitted it was their error. (Often a light car is
ballasted up to weight and I dare say that this was done incorrectly.)

Ehhh... I've just done some quick reading and Mark Hughes thinks it
WAS the tyres (and lack of a cooldown lap to pickup marbles?). <shrug>
Buggered if I know, I could have been wrong above. I remember the days
when engineers always told the driver to be sure to get plenty of tyre
pickup on the cooldown lap but haven't heard anything like that for
... decades?

I hear it all the time .
geoff

I don't recall hearing it much, but I certainly do SEE it on cars that
come to the victory area.

[Phil Carmody]

Post by Geoff

Post by ~misfit~

Post by ~misfit~

Post by Woozy Song
In another forum, a zillion posters said because he did 1-stop
that he wore a few kg extra rubber off the tyres. But then would
not the tyres be unsafe in the final laps?

The other forum is filled with clowns. It's nothing to do with the
tyres, Merc have admitted it was their error. (Often a light car is
ballasted up to weight and I dare say that this was done
incorrectly.)

Ehhh... I've just done some quick reading and Mark Hughes thinks it
WAS the tyres (and lack of a cooldown lap to pickup
marbles?). <shrug> Buggered if I know, I could have been wrong
above. I remember the days when engineers always told the driver to
be sure to get plenty of tyre pickup on the cooldown lap but haven't
heard anything like that for ... decades?

I hear it all the time .

Not so much in the last few years, but from about a decade ago you would
always get a euphemism for it in the post-race radio - silly fluffy
words like "standard in-lap procedure". Yeah, you're not hiding anything
from anyone using terms like that, in particular when Brundle is
explaining it the second after it's aired.

Phil