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12 drivers issued with a warning
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Geoff May
2020-09-13 20:14:24 UTC
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https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/12071307/twelve-f1-drivers-receive-warnings-over-tuscan-gp-restart-crash

The last comment implies that there may be more to come.

Cheers

Geoff
alister
2020-09-13 20:41:40 UTC
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https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/12071307/twelve-f1-drivers-
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Post by Geoff May
The last comment implies that there may be more to come.
Cheers
Geoff
The on board video shows that at least one driver is a huge fan of the
halo today.

Could have been very nasty.
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After all is said and done, a hell of a lot more is said than
done.
Bigbird
2020-09-13 21:18:39 UTC
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Geoff May wrote:
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/12071307/twelve-f1-drivers-receive-warnings-over-tuscan-gp-restart-crash
Post by Geoff May
The last comment implies that there may be more to come.
Which comment? The decision read as pretty final to me.
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texas gate
2020-09-13 21:44:43 UTC
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Which comment? The decision read as pretty final to me.
Here's a comment.
You are a miserable cock sucking cunt.
Geoff May
2020-09-14 16:39:55 UTC
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Post by Geoff May
The last comment implies that there may be more to come.
Which comment? The decision read as pretty final to me.
When I posted, it ended with "More to follow" but the article has been
updated since then.

Cheers

Geoff
Alan Baker
2020-09-13 21:55:28 UTC
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The last comment implies that there may be more to come.
A huge part of the problem is that no one in F1 appears to have studied
games theory.

:-)
XYXPDQ
2020-09-13 22:49:30 UTC
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Bottas may have followed the letter of the law, but what he did was far from normal on a SC restart.
Alan Baker
2020-09-13 23:52:53 UTC
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Bottas may have followed the letter of the law, but what he did was far from normal on a SC restart.
What is normal is to take absolutely every advantage the rules give you.

Every driver should have worked out in his head that that would have
been the correct strategy and the implication that there could therefore
be cars at well below racing pace until after start/finish.

I've said it about every sport:

Call the rules as they are written.

If that causes a problem:

Change the rules!
~misfit~
2020-09-14 05:28:53 UTC
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Bottas may have followed the letter of the law, but what he did was far from normal on a SC restart.
Except it already happened four times the same weekend at the same track in F2 and F3. It's a
track-specific safety car start and the drivers who fucked up should be sent back to F3 to start
again IMO.
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Alan Baker
2020-09-14 06:40:57 UTC
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Bottas may have followed the letter of the law, but what he did was
far from normal on a SC restart.
Except it already happened four times the same weekend at the same track
in F2 and F3. It's a track-specific safety car start and the drivers who
fucked up should be sent back to F3 to start again IMO.
Precisely.

This shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone.
Bigbird
2020-09-14 08:46:56 UTC
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Bottas may have followed the letter of the law, but what he did was
far from normal on a SC restart.
Except it already happened four times the same weekend at the same
track in F2 and F3. It's a track-specific safety car start...
Yup, there is so much to gain by getting a run in such a situation that
without very specific rules to avoid it the risk of this was very high.

They could have easily specified a rule change for safety reasons that
would have avoided this. A reversion to the previous rule would have
sufficed. Turn 1 would still have been a challenge but the potential
speed differences would have been far less.

Most of the reprimanded drivers had no definite way of knowing whether
the race was back on or not.
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Heron
Enjoy!
larkim
2020-09-14 10:41:12 UTC
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Post by XYXPDQ
Bottas may have followed the letter of the law, but what he did was
far from normal on a SC restart.
Except it already happened four times the same weekend at the same
track in F2 and F3. It's a track-specific safety car start...
Yup, there is so much to gain by getting a run in such a situation that
without very specific rules to avoid it the risk of this was very high.
They could have easily specified a rule change for safety reasons that
would have avoided this. A reversion to the previous rule would have
sufficed. Turn 1 would still have been a challenge but the potential
speed differences would have been far less.
Most of the reprimanded drivers had no definite way of knowing whether
the race was back on or not.
--
Bozo bin
Texasgate
Heron
Enjoy!
What reversion to the rules? Wasn't it just the positioning of the SC line that was "unusual" for a circuit? Or have I missed some other fundamental rule change (beyond the shuffling of the lapped cars back into position?
Bigbird
2020-09-14 12:20:05 UTC
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Post by XYXPDQ
Bottas may have followed the letter of the law, but what he did
was far from normal on a SC restart.
Except it already happened four times the same weekend at the same
track in F2 and F3. It's a track-specific safety car start...
Yup, there is so much to gain by getting a run in such a situation
that without very specific rules to avoid it the risk of this was
very high.
They could have easily specified a rule change for safety reasons
that would have avoided this. A reversion to the previous rule
would have sufficed. Turn 1 would still have been a challenge but
the potential speed differences would have been far less.
Most of the reprimanded drivers had no definite way of knowing
whether the race was back on or not.
--
Bozo bin
Texasgate
Heron
Enjoy!
What reversion to the rules? Wasn't it just the positioning of the
SC line that was "unusual" for a circuit? Or have I missed some
other fundamental rule change (beyond the shuffling of the lapped
cars back into position?
In 2019 they reverted to using the "control line" as the place earliest
overtaking place. For a number of years it had been the first SC line
at the pit entrance.
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Bozo bin
Texasgate
Heron
Enjoy!
larkim
2020-09-14 14:44:31 UTC
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Post by XYXPDQ
Bottas may have followed the letter of the law, but what he did
was far from normal on a SC restart.
Except it already happened four times the same weekend at the same
track in F2 and F3. It's a track-specific safety car start...
Yup, there is so much to gain by getting a run in such a situation
that without very specific rules to avoid it the risk of this was
very high.
They could have easily specified a rule change for safety reasons
that would have avoided this. A reversion to the previous rule
would have sufficed. Turn 1 would still have been a challenge but
the potential speed differences would have been far less.
Most of the reprimanded drivers had no definite way of knowing
whether the race was back on or not.
--
Bozo bin
Texasgate
Heron
Enjoy!
What reversion to the rules? Wasn't it just the positioning of the
SC line that was "unusual" for a circuit? Or have I missed some
other fundamental rule change (beyond the shuffling of the lapped
cars back into position?
In 2019 they reverted to using the "control line" as the place earliest
overtaking place. For a number of years it had been the first SC line
at the pit entrance.
--
Bozo bin
Texasgate
Heron
Enjoy!
Aha, thanks! I was missing that piece of info.

Ironic that the move to improve the safety through the SC deployment caused more safety issues.

Would a VSC not have worked better?
News
2020-09-14 14:58:52 UTC
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Post by XYXPDQ
Bottas may have followed the letter of the law, but what he did
was far from normal on a SC restart.
Except it already happened four times the same weekend at the same
track in F2 and F3. It's a track-specific safety car start...
Yup, there is so much to gain by getting a run in such a situation
that without very specific rules to avoid it the risk of this was
very high.
They could have easily specified a rule change for safety reasons
that would have avoided this. A reversion to the previous rule
would have sufficed. Turn 1 would still have been a challenge but
the potential speed differences would have been far less.
Most of the reprimanded drivers had no definite way of knowing
whether the race was back on or not.
--
Bozo bin
Texasgate
Heron
Enjoy!
What reversion to the rules? Wasn't it just the positioning of the
SC line that was "unusual" for a circuit? Or have I missed some
other fundamental rule change (beyond the shuffling of the lapped
cars back into position?
In 2019 they reverted to using the "control line" as the place earliest
overtaking place. For a number of years it had been the first SC line
at the pit entrance.
--
Bozo bin
Texasgate
Heron
Enjoy!
Aha, thanks! I was missing that piece of info.
Ironic that the move to improve the safety through the SC deployment caused more safety issues.
Would a VSC not have worked better?
Why not a sprint race with reverse position start?

That's "Spectacle."
XYXPDQ
2020-09-14 16:58:13 UTC
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Post by XYXPDQ
Bottas may have followed the letter of the law, but what he did was far from normal on a SC restart.
Except it already happened four times the same weekend at the same track in F2 and F3. It's a
track-specific safety car start and the drivers who fucked up should be sent back to F3 to start
again IMO.
--
Shaun.
"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM"
David Melville
This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software.
Maybe Bottas's action would have made sense if the SC period had mixed up the front of the field, but The Chosen One was going to be moved ahead of him anyway.
Sir Tim
2020-09-14 18:54:28 UTC
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https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/12071307/twelve-f1-drivers-receive-warnings-over-tuscan-gp-restart-crash
The last comment implies that there may be more to come.
The stewards should realize that they are not dealing with rational human
beings, they are dealing with racing drivers 😊
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Sir Tim
Alan Baker
2020-09-14 19:25:06 UTC
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Post by Geoff May
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/12071307/twelve-f1-drivers-receive-warnings-over-tuscan-gp-restart-crash
The last comment implies that there may be more to come.
The stewards should realize that they are not dealing with rational human
beings, they are dealing with racing drivers 😊
Truth.

:-)

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