Post by Alan Baker Post by Heron Post by Alan Baker Post by Heron
Again, if that what you've gleaned from the discussion,
then you remain hopeless, as always.
Post by Alan Baker
Which is why I called it bullshit.
There was only one clearly stated and obvious assumption
which followed from each clearly stated, inarguable fact.
No. It does NOT follow that because the outcome was expect to be one
thing, then the action must have been deliberate.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks
like a duck, what you've probably got there is a duck.
You've never heard of Occam's Razor, I take it.
The video clearly shows Vettel's hands don't open (not that you'd know
what "open" means in the context of racing anyway—it means to
straighten the wheel) at all.
So where is the deliberate move into Hamilton?
It was simply a case of the car undeersteering.
Not to mention that any F1 driver understands that hitting one's own
1. Unlikely to upset the balance of the car when the contac is near
the centre of mass (as this one was).
2. Fairly likely to give you a puncture.
Post by Heron
But he's a well recognized poseur that not only doesn't
know really anything, he doesn't even suspect anything.
I've actually been out there, and have actually had the moment of
understeer that put me into contact with a competitor. Only in my
case, it was contact between his rear tire and my front tire as he
attempted to overtake and left me no room at all on the inside of a
And also in my case, it happened that he (Doug) ended up in a quarter
spin right in front of me, and my nose speared his left sidepod which
very shortly put him out of the race.
But I can tell you that at no time would I so much as considered
making such a hit deliberately.
And the commentator's initial thought that it should have been
Hamilton who spun were based on incomplete knowledge at that point,
where he clearly assumed the contact had been front wheel to rear wheel.
Talk about bullshit, stacked high and deep.