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Alan Baker
2019-04-23 19:22:27 UTC
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I'm not sure what possessed the Sports Car Club of BC and the
International Conference of Sports Car Clubs to schedule our first race
of the year on Easter weekend, but it was frustrating to see the reduced
turnout when looking at the list of entries.

But I was satisfied that there were at least a couple of cars that I
expected to be mixing it up with.

But it was frustrating when Saturday morning dawned and one of those two
cars wasn't there because the driver got called into work. Still, there
was Larry Bangert up from Washington, and I was satisfied that he'd be
able to make me work for anything I got.

So it was frustrating when he had brake problems and so could run with
me in qualifying. That left me qualified on pole for Formula F, and 4
seconds faster than Larry. So I had to be satisfied with that, and
hopefully, Larry would have his brake issues sorted by race time four
and a quarter hours later. And it was certainly satisfying that I
qualified faster than one Formula Continental. :-)

In the race, it seemed like Larry would be up to speed as he was only
about a second behind after things got sorted, so I was frustrated that
I had to run a fairly boring race in first place from flag to flag. But
given that we almost put too little fuel in the car and it started to
misfire when it got about about 4500rpm, I was definitely satisfied to
cross the line for the win (still running more than 2 seconds a lap
faster than the next fastest FF)

The next morning while we were refueling, it was frustrating to find
that at some point in the race, the rear anti-roll bar had broken, but I
was satisfied with how the car handled after I adjusted the front bar to
full soft. And I was definitely satisfied with qualifying on pole again,
still more than 3 seconds faster than the next fastest FF), but I was
frustrated by the continuing lack of Dave, who had to work on Saturday,
but said he'd be there on Sunday. And Larry was still having problems,
so it didn't bode well for a satisfying race.

The race came, we put sufficient fuel in the car, and I had to be
satisfied by being so far in the lead with 5 minutes to go that I
couldn't see the car in second place.

So imagine my frustration when a small piece of tape jammed open the
throttle butterfly just enough to prevent the car from slowing for turn
7A and I ended up off the track after riding over the apex curbing at
7B. With the engine revving to more than 4000rpm with my foot off the
throttle, there was no way to get the racing clutch throwout bearing to
disengage the clutch enough to get back into gear, so I got to watch the
end of the race in my rear-view mirrors until the safety crew came over
to move my car a little farther off the racing line. Then I could see
anything at all, and we waited until the last car to exit the track was
ahead of us before I got flat-towed back to my paddock space.

Still, one race win and one race in the bag except for a mechanical issue...

...I guess I'm satisfied.

:-)
Alan Baker
2019-04-23 19:25:25 UTC
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I'm not sure what possessed the Sports Car Club of BC and the
International Conference of Sports Car Clubs to schedule our first race
of the year on Easter weekend, but it was frustrating to see the reduced
turnout when looking at the list of entries.
But I was satisfied that there were at least a couple of cars that I
expected to be mixing it up with.
But it was frustrating when Saturday morning dawned and one of those two
cars wasn't there because the driver got called into work. Still, there
was Larry Bangert up from Washington, and I was satisfied that he'd be
able to make me work for anything I got.
So it was frustrating when he had brake problems and so could run with
me in qualifying. That left me qualified on pole for Formula F, and 4
seconds faster than Larry. So I had to be satisfied with that, and
hopefully, Larry would have his brake issues sorted by race time four
and a quarter hours later. And it was certainly satisfying that I
qualified faster than one Formula Continental. :-)
In the race, it seemed like Larry would be up to speed as he was only
about a second behind after things got sorted, so I was frustrated that
I had to run a fairly boring race in first place from flag to flag. But
given that we almost put too little fuel in the car and it started to
misfire when it got about about 4500rpm, I was definitely satisfied to
cross the line for the win (still running more than 2 seconds a lap
faster than the next fastest FF)
The next morning while we were refueling, it was frustrating to find
that at some point in the race, the rear anti-roll bar had broken, but I
was satisfied with how the car handled after I adjusted the front bar to
full soft. And I was definitely satisfied with qualifying on pole again,
still more than 3 seconds faster than the next fastest FF), but I was
frustrated by the continuing lack of Dave, who had to work on Saturday,
but said he'd be there on Sunday. And Larry was still having problems,
so it didn't bode well for a satisfying race.
The race came, we put sufficient fuel in the car, and I had to be
satisfied by being so far in the lead with 5 minutes to go that I
couldn't see the car in second place.
So imagine my frustration when a small piece of tape jammed open the
throttle butterfly just enough to prevent the car from slowing for turn
7A and I ended up off the track after riding over the apex curbing at
7B. With the engine revving to more than 4000rpm with my foot off the
throttle, there was no way to get the racing clutch throwout bearing to
disengage the clutch enough to get back into gear, so I got to watch the
end of the race in my rear-view mirrors until the safety crew came over
to move my car a little farther off the racing line. Then I could see
anything at all, and we waited until the last car to exit the track was
ahead of us before I got flat-towed back to my paddock space.
Still, one race win and one race in the bag except for a mechanical issue...
...I guess I'm satisfied.
:-)
Oh, but it was frustrating to see my recorded as a DQ for the Sunday
race because I didn't report immediately to the scales upon leaving the
track. I should have been scored a DNF.
a425couple
2019-04-24 15:16:43 UTC
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The race came, we put sufficient fuel in the car, and I had to be
satisfied by being so far in the lead with 5 minutes to go that I
couldn't see the car in second place.
So imagine my frustration when a small piece of tape jammed open the
throttle butterfly just enough to prevent the car from slowing for
turn 7A and I ended up off the track after riding over the apex
curbing at 7B. With the engine revving to more than 4000rpm with my
foot off the throttle, there was no way to get the racing clutch
throwout bearing to disengage the clutch enough to get back into gear,
so I got to watch the end of the race in my rear-view mirrors until
the safety crew came over to move my car a little farther off the
racing line. Then I could see anything at all, and we waited until the
last car to exit the track was ahead of us before I got flat-towed
back to my paddock space.
Still, one race win and one race in the bag except for a mechanical issue...
...I guess I'm satisfied.
:-)
Oh, but it was frustrating to see my recorded as a DQ for the Sunday
race because I didn't report immediately to the scales upon leaving the
track. I should have been scored a DNF.
Now I am not nearly as 'in the loop' with rules as I used
to be, but let me remind you that, this one weekend a year
was run to ICSCC rules, rather than your normal CACC.

ICSCC drivers voted a fair number of years ago to change
the requirement for finishing. You no longer need to cross
under the checkered flag under your car's own power to count
as a finish. You had completed over half of the leaders
laps, so indeed you would have been a finisher. And,
with the low class turnout, would have been on podium,
so (in the unlikely event you had been fully aware --)
you should have had flat tow leave you just inside the gate
so you could push over to the scales.

That is kind of the same as the big & huge and deeply
wounding 'legal' fight that caused Paul Went---- to
became totally angry & forever leave ICSCC. I wonder if he
has ever sold his FV?
Alan Baker
2019-04-24 17:03:06 UTC
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The race came, we put sufficient fuel in the car, and I had to be
satisfied by being so far in the lead with 5 minutes to go that I
couldn't see the car in second place.
So imagine my frustration when a small piece of tape jammed open the
throttle butterfly just enough to prevent the car from slowing for
turn 7A and I ended up off the track after riding over the apex
curbing at 7B. With the engine revving to more than 4000rpm with my
foot off the throttle, there was no way to get the racing clutch
throwout bearing to disengage the clutch enough to get back into
gear, so I got to watch the end of the race in my rear-view mirrors
until the safety crew came over to move my car a little farther off
the racing line. Then I could see anything at all, and we waited
until the last car to exit the track was ahead of us before I got
flat-towed back to my paddock space.
Still, one race win and one race in the bag except for a mechanical issue...
...I guess I'm satisfied.
:-)
Oh, but it was frustrating to see my recorded as a DQ for the Sunday
race because I didn't report immediately to the scales upon leaving
the track. I should have been scored a DNF.
Now I am not nearly as 'in the loop' with rules as I used
to be, but let me remind you that, this one weekend a year
was run to ICSCC rules, rather than your normal CACC.
ICSCC drivers voted a fair number of years ago to change
the requirement for finishing.  You no longer need to cross
under the checkered flag under your car's own power to count
as a finish.  You had completed over half of the leaders
laps, so indeed you would have been a finisher.  And,
with the low class turnout, would have been on podium,
so (in the unlikely event you had been fully aware --)
you should have had flat tow leave you just inside the gate
so you could push over to the scales.
That is kind of the same as the big & huge and deeply
wounding 'legal' fight that caused Paul Went---- to
became totally angry & forever leave ICSCC.  I wonder if he
has ever sold his FV?
Interesting.

However, while the event is run under ICSCC rules, I doubt the SCCBC
championship rules would award me third place points for a DNF even if
the Conference rule book scores it as a finish.

Hopefully, by the end of the year, the one point I'd get for a DNF
rather than a DQ will be moot.

:-)
a425couple
2019-04-24 15:34:18 UTC
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I'm not sure what possessed the Sports Car Club of BC and the
International Conference of Sports Car Clubs to schedule our first
race of the year on Easter weekend,
I believe that has to do with a big name contracted
drag car race weekend that comes around to River's Edge
every 4 or 5 years.

The scheduling issue is always real tough, with many
very involved and moving parts. Unless you are real
dedicated to be deeply involved as a volunteer,
in effort sure to cause headaches, be careful!
It is not a simple, "let's do it the same as last year!"
Like making sausage, it's not pretty or neat.

I have really cut back from the years I was doing
8 to 12 races a year. I'll probably not do Mission again.

Why don't you, one more time, come down and race
with us on 11 & 12 May? Or 20 & 21 July?
If I recall correctly, you liked Pacific Raceways.

Or do something totally new and come down to
check out "The Ridge Motorsports Park" on August 24 & 25?
Lately we have gotten several of your Canadian
formula drivers for that one.

And, a reminder, every year at the Spokane race
May 31 to June 2, a seriously large number of
Canadians from Edmonton and Regina always show
up with their formula cars.
Alan Baker
2019-04-24 17:18:57 UTC
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I'm not sure what possessed the Sports Car Club of BC and the
International Conference of Sports Car Clubs to schedule our first
race of the year on Easter weekend,
I believe that has to do with a big name contracted
drag car race weekend that comes around to River's Edge
every 4 or 5 years.
The scheduling issue is always real tough, with many
very involved and moving parts.  Unless you are real
dedicated to be deeply involved as a volunteer,
in effort sure to cause headaches, be careful!
It is not a simple, "let's do it the same as last year!"
Like making sausage, it's not pretty or neat.
I do know that... ...it was just frustrating to have so few cars turn out.
Post by a425couple
I have really cut back from the years I was doing
8 to 12 races a year.  I'll probably not do Mission again.
Why don't you, one more time, come down and race
with us on 11 & 12 May?  Or 20 & 21 July?
If I recall correctly, you liked Pacific Raceways.
You recall quite correctly. I'm seriously considering which events south
of the border I might be able to make. July looks pretty possible.

:-)
Post by a425couple
Or do something totally new and come down to
check out "The Ridge Motorsports Park"  on August 24 & 25?
Lately we have gotten several of your Canadian
formula drivers for that one.
That's a long tow... ...but everyone says that The Ridge is worth it.

:-)
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And, a reminder, every year at the Spokane race
May 31 to June 2, a seriously large number of
Canadians from Edmonton and Regina always show
up with their formula cars.
That one I cannot make this year. I've already got two other things that
I've had to drop because I'll be instructing our second driver training
course with the SCCBC.

:-(
a425couple
2019-04-24 15:39:21 UTC
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I'm not sure what possessed the Sports Car Club of BC --
So imagine my frustration when a small piece of tape jammed open the
throttle butterfly just enough to prevent the car from slowing for
turn 7A and I ended up off the track after riding over the apex
curbing at 7B. With the engine revving to more than 4000rpm with my
foot off the throttle, there was no way to get the racing clutch
throwout bearing to disengage the clutch enough to get back into gear,
so I got to watch the end of the race in my rear-view mirrors until
the safety crew came over to move my car a little farther off the
racing line. Then I could see anything at all, and we waited until the
last car to exit the track was ahead of us before I got flat-towed
back to my paddock space.
Still, one race win and one race in the bag except for a mechanical issue...
...I guess I'm satisfied.
Throttle return, simple, easy and cheap!
Count your blessings!!!!

Did you see the fire that singed up our battery
friend's car?
And, the guy that bought Dave Ben---'s Sports Racer
I heard finally came out to race, and biffed it.
How bad was the bending and breaking?
Alan Baker
2019-04-24 17:25:26 UTC
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I'm not sure what possessed the Sports Car Club of BC --
So imagine my frustration when a small piece of tape jammed open the
throttle butterfly just enough to prevent the car from slowing for
turn 7A and I ended up off the track after riding over the apex
curbing at 7B. With the engine revving to more than 4000rpm with my
foot off the throttle, there was no way to get the racing clutch
throwout bearing to disengage the clutch enough to get back into
gear, so I got to watch the end of the race in my rear-view mirrors
until the safety crew came over to move my car a little farther off
the racing line. Then I could see anything at all, and we waited
until the last car to exit the track was ahead of us before I got
flat-towed back to my paddock space.
Still, one race win and one race in the bag except for a mechanical issue...
...I guess I'm satisfied.
Throttle return, simple, easy and cheap!
Cheaper than you know. It was just some tape that the previous owner had
put on the end of a flex line from the airbox built into the engine
cover down to the throttle body. It frayed off and got stuck in the
butterfly.
Post by a425couple
Count your blessings!!!!
Did you see the fire that singed up our battery
friend's car?
I didn't see it, but I talked to his prep crew afterward. Apparently, JP
was less than impressed with the quality of certain parts of the West's
fuel system and had complained about it to West on several occasions...

...until it finally caused the fire he thought it might.
Post by a425couple
And, the guy that bought Dave Ben---'s Sports Racer
I heard finally came out to race, and biffed it.
How bad was the bending and breaking?
Bad. The driver was fine, but the car lost its brakes as he was reaching
turn 3; ALL it's brakes. So he ended up running up and over the front of
an FC who was turning in just ahead of him and that barely slowed him
down (fortunately, he had the presence of mind to redirect into the
front of the FC... ...instead of hitting it right at the cockpit).

When the car finally came back to the paddock, they had to forklift/drag
it into his toy hauler trailer, and he took one look at the bodywork and
told the safety crew just to put it in the bin.
a425couple
2019-04-26 03:33:29 UTC
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I'm not sure what possessed the Sports Car Club of BC --
So imagine my frustration when a small piece of tape jammed open the
throttle butterfly just enough to prevent the car from slowing for
turn 7A and I ended up off the track after riding over the apex
curbing at 7B. With the engine revving to more than 4000rpm with my
foot off the throttle, there was no way to get the racing clutch
throwout bearing to disengage the clutch enough to get back into
gear, so I got to watch the end of the race in my rear-view mirrors
until the safety crew came over to move my car a little farther off
the racing line. Then I could see anything at all, and we waited
until the last car to exit the track was ahead of us before I got
flat-towed back to my paddock space.
Still, one race win and one race in the bag except for a mechanical issue...
...I guess I'm satisfied.
Throttle return, simple, easy and cheap!
Cheaper than you know. It was just some tape that the previous owner had
put on the end of a flex line from the airbox built into the engine
cover down to the throttle body. It frayed off and got stuck in the
butterfly.
Cool. This picture makes things look a bit "argy-bargy"!
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Post by a425couple
Count your blessings!!!!
Did you see the fire that singed up our battery
friend's car?
I didn't see it, but I talked to his prep crew afterward. Apparently, JP
was less than impressed
OK. JP does have some opinions.
Jerry Frechette had not pictures of the West's issues,
(although our battery friend posted fair number
on facebook).
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And, the guy that bought Dave Ben---'s Sports Racer
I heard finally came out to race, and biffed it.
How bad was the bending and breaking?
Bad. The driver was fine, but the car lost its brakes as he was reaching
turn 3; ALL it's brakes. So he ended up running up and over the front of
an FC who was turning in just ahead of him and that barely slowed him
down (fortunately, he had the presence of mind to redirect into the
front of the FC... ...instead of hitting it right at the cockpit).
When the car finally came back to the paddock, they had to forklift/drag
it into his toy hauler trailer, and he took one look at the bodywork and
told the safety crew just to put it in the bin.
Frechette also had none from this issue.
I sure hope they did not just discard the fiberglass.
Repairers often want to at least examine it all.
Alan Baker
2019-04-26 05:29:13 UTC
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I'm not sure what possessed the Sports Car Club of BC --
So imagine my frustration when a small piece of tape jammed open
the throttle butterfly just enough to prevent the car from slowing
for turn 7A and I ended up off the track after riding over the apex
curbing at 7B. With the engine revving to more than 4000rpm with my
foot off the throttle, there was no way to get the racing clutch
throwout bearing to disengage the clutch enough to get back into
gear, so I got to watch the end of the race in my rear-view mirrors
until the safety crew came over to move my car a little farther off
the racing line. Then I could see anything at all, and we waited
until the last car to exit the track was ahead of us before I got
flat-towed back to my paddock space.
Still, one race win and one race in the bag except for a mechanical issue...
...I guess I'm satisfied.
Throttle return, simple, easy and cheap!
Cheaper than you know. It was just some tape that the previous owner
had put on the end of a flex line from the airbox built into the
engine cover down to the throttle body. It frayed off and got stuck in
the butterfly.
Cool.  This picture makes things look a bit "argy-bargy"!
What picture? Do you mean the mental picture of the sports racer?

I'm going to take a look at how well the flex hose fits on the throttle
body inlet with no tape at all.
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Post by a425couple
Count your blessings!!!!
Did you see the fire that singed up our battery
friend's car?
I didn't see it, but I talked to his prep crew afterward. Apparently,
JP was less than impressed
OK.  JP does have some opinions.
That he does. :-)
Jerry Frechette had not pictures of the West's issues,
(although our battery friend posted fair number
on facebook).
I can't really judge, but JP seemed genuinely upset with the quality of
what West had built into the car.
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Post by a425couple
And, the guy that bought Dave Ben---'s Sports Racer
I heard finally came out to race, and biffed it.
How bad was the bending and breaking?
Bad. The driver was fine, but the car lost its brakes as he was
reaching turn 3; ALL it's brakes. So he ended up running up and over
the front of an FC who was turning in just ahead of him and that
barely slowed him down (fortunately, he had the presence of mind to
redirect into the front of the FC... ...instead of hitting it right at
the cockpit).
When the car finally came back to the paddock, they had to
forklift/drag it into his toy hauler trailer, and he took one look at
the bodywork and told the safety crew just to put it in the bin.
Frechette also had none from this issue.
I sure hope they did not just discard the fiberglass.
Repairers often want to at least examine it all.
He probably felt like I did: it was just so bad that I didn't have the
heart to take a picture.

And when I left the track, the owner was long gone, and the remains of
the bodywork were left by the trash bin.
a425couple
2019-04-26 17:24:35 UTC
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I'm not sure what possessed the Sports Car Club of BC --
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Cool.  This picture makes things look a bit "argy-bargy"!
What picture? Do you mean the mental picture of the sports racer?
Sorry.
I just goofed and failed to paste in the photo
from the formula car start (figure day 2?)
where the grid is close and three wide headed
into turn 1.
here:
https://gerryfrechette.zenfolio.com/p903326935
Post by Alan Baker
Jerry Frechette had no pictures of the West's issues,
(although our battery friend posted fair number
on facebook).
I can't really judge, but JP seemed genuinely upset with the quality of
what West had built into the car.
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Post by a425couple
And, the guy that bought Dave Ben---'s Sports Racer
I heard finally came out to race, and biffed it.
How bad was the bending and breaking?
Bad. The driver was fine, but the car lost its brakes as he was
reaching turn 3; ALL it's brakes. So he ended up running up and over
the front of an FC who was turning in just ahead of him and that
barely slowed him down (fortunately, he had the presence of mind to
redirect into the front of the FC... ...instead of hitting it right
at the cockpit).
When the car finally came back to the paddock, they had to
forklift/drag it into his toy hauler trailer, and he took one look at
the bodywork and told the safety crew just to put it in the bin.
Frechette also had none from this issue.
I sure hope they did not just discard the fiberglass.
Repairers often want to at least examine it all.
He probably felt like I did: it was just so bad that I didn't have the
heart to take a picture.
And when I left the track, the owner was long gone, and the remains of
the bodywork were left by the trash bin.
Front, or back also?

Ohhh Man.
That new owner does not communicate much with
the regular sports racer crowd,,,, and / so he does
what he does.
Alan Baker
2019-04-26 19:03:28 UTC
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I'm not sure what possessed the Sports Car Club of BC --
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Cool.  This picture makes things look a bit "argy-bargy"!
What picture? Do you mean the mental picture of the sports racer?
Sorry.
I just goofed and failed to paste in the photo
from the formula car start (figure day 2?)
where the grid is close and three wide headed
into turn 1.
https://gerryfrechette.zenfolio.com/p903326935
Ah. I was kind of right in the middle of that (number 21, black Van
Diemen with yellow nose and top of engine cover) and it wasn't TOO bad.

Some of the guys in FC are still getting up to speed (so I out-qualified
them), and one (Rick's) had a problem starting on pre-grid so he went to
the back and then was shooting through the field fast. I had the one guy
in FF/CF who I thought might challenge behind me with no way to get
around (the blue and white Crossle), so I just let the FCs go through.

But everyone was pretty respectful.

:-)
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Post by Alan Baker
Jerry Frechette had no pictures of the West's issues,
(although our battery friend posted fair number
on facebook).
I can't really judge, but JP seemed genuinely upset with the quality
of what West had built into the car.
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Post by a425couple
And, the guy that bought Dave Ben---'s Sports Racer
I heard finally came out to race, and biffed it.
How bad was the bending and breaking?
Bad. The driver was fine, but the car lost its brakes as he was
reaching turn 3; ALL it's brakes. So he ended up running up and over
the front of an FC who was turning in just ahead of him and that
barely slowed him down (fortunately, he had the presence of mind to
redirect into the front of the FC... ...instead of hitting it right
at the cockpit).
When the car finally came back to the paddock, they had to
forklift/drag it into his toy hauler trailer, and he took one look
at the bodywork and told the safety crew just to put it in the bin.
Frechette also had none from this issue.
I sure hope they did not just discard the fiberglass.
Repairers often want to at least examine it all.
He probably felt like I did: it was just so bad that I didn't have the
heart to take a picture.
And when I left the track, the owner was long gone, and the remains of
the bodywork were left by the trash bin.
Front, or back also?
Every bit of it. He was tumbling as he went over top of the FC and tore
up pretty much every part of the body.
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Ohhh Man.
That new owner does not communicate much with
the regular sports racer crowd,,,, and / so he does
what he does.
Yeah. Folks can be like that.

I forgot that there's a guy back east who I should check with before
buying replacement stuff from the US, and so I ended up paying more for
a new rear ARB setup than I needed to.

:-(
a425couple
2019-04-27 19:36:19 UTC
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I'm not sure what possessed the Sports Car Club of BC --
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Cool.  This picture makes things look a bit "argy-bargy"!
from the formula car start (figure day 2?)
where the grid is close and three wide headed
into turn 1.
https://gerryfrechette.zenfolio.com/p903326935
But everyone was pretty respectful.
Cool. That is good.
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Ah. I was kind of right in the middle of that (number 21, black Van
Diemen with yellow nose and top of engine cover)
Yes. I had figured out that change in paint scheme.
What is going on? 3 of you Canadians are now running
black with yellow top color schemes.
And several others are yellow.
Oh well, trends come and go.
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And, the guy that bought Dave Ben---'s Sports Racer
I heard finally came out to race, and biffed it.
How bad was the bending and breaking?
Bad. The driver was fine, but the car lost its brakes as he was
reaching turn 3; ALL it's brakes. So he ended up running up and
over the front of an FC who was turning in just ahead of him and
that barely slowed him down (fortunately, he had the presence of
mind to redirect into the front of the FC... ...instead of hitting
it right at the cockpit).
When the car finally came back to the paddock, they had to
forklift/drag it into his toy hauler trailer, and he took one look
at the bodywork and told the safety crew just to put it in the bin.
----
I sure hope they did not just discard the fiberglass.
Repairers often want to at least examine it all.
----
And when I left the track, the owner was long gone, and the remains
of the bodywork were left by the trash bin.
Front, or back also?
Every bit of it. He was tumbling as he went over top of the FC and tore
up pretty much every part of the body.
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Ohhh Man.
That new owner does not communicate much with
the regular sports racer crowd,,,, and / so he does
what he does.
Yeah. Folks can be like that.
'Others' are certainly not always right.
However, being certain that oneself is right and
everyone else is wrong,,, is a gamble.
Wise at times, but needs consideration.
Alan Baker
2019-04-27 23:02:24 UTC
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I'm not sure what possessed the Sports Car Club of BC --
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Cool.  This picture makes things look a bit "argy-bargy"!
from the formula car start (figure day 2?)
where the grid is close and three wide headed
into turn 1.
https://gerryfrechette.zenfolio.com/p903326935
But everyone was pretty respectful.
Cool.  That is good.
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Ah. I was kind of right in the middle of that (number 21, black Van
Diemen with yellow nose and top of engine cover)
Yes. I had figured out that change in paint scheme.
What is going on?  3 of you Canadians are now running
black with yellow top color schemes.
And several others are yellow.
Oh well, trends come and go.
That's just the way the car came...

It will probably get a paint job some time this year, but going faster
has a higher priority.

:-)
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And, the guy that bought Dave Ben---'s Sports Racer
I heard finally came out to race, and biffed it.
How bad was the bending and breaking?
Bad. The driver was fine, but the car lost its brakes as he was
reaching turn 3; ALL it's brakes. So he ended up running up and
over the front of an FC who was turning in just ahead of him and
that barely slowed him down (fortunately, he had the presence of
mind to redirect into the front of the FC... ...instead of hitting
it right at the cockpit).
When the car finally came back to the paddock, they had to
forklift/drag it into his toy hauler trailer, and he took one look
at the bodywork and told the safety crew just to put it in the bin.
----
I sure hope they did not just discard the fiberglass.
Repairers often want to at least examine it all.
----
And when I left the track, the owner was long gone, and the remains
of the bodywork were left by the trash bin.
Front, or back also?
Every bit of it. He was tumbling as he went over top of the FC and
tore up pretty much every part of the body.
Post by a425couple
Ohhh Man.
That new owner does not communicate much with
the regular sports racer crowd,,,, and / so he does
what he does.
Yeah. Folks can be like that.
'Others' are certainly not always right.
However, being certain that oneself is right and
everyone else is wrong,,, is a gamble.
Wise at times, but needs consideration.
Yup. Self-reflection ("Am I really SURE no one else might have a better
idea?") is always a good thing...

...even if it doesn't end up changing your mind.

:-)
a425couple
2019-04-28 02:05:00 UTC
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I'm not sure what possessed the Sports Car Club of BC --
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Cool.  This picture makes things look a bit "argy-bargy"!
from the formula car start (figure day 2?)
where the grid is close and three wide headed
into turn 1.
https://gerryfrechette.zenfolio.com/p903326935
 > But everyone was pretty respectful.
Cool.  That is good.
Post by Alan Baker
Ah. I was kind of right in the middle of that (number 21, black Van
Diemen with yellow nose and top of engine cover)
Yes. I had figured out that change in paint scheme.
What is going on?  3 of you Canadians are now running
black with yellow top color schemes.
And several others are yellow.
Oh well, trends come and go.
That's just the way the car came...
Wooosh!
So, I guess I'd missed that you bought a different FF than
what I had seen you in both in Canada and Pacific Raceways.
Post by Alan Baker
It will probably get a paint job some time this year, but going faster
has a higher priority.
:-)
I agree with that. Mostly.
Alan Baker
2019-04-28 16:32:49 UTC
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I'm not sure what possessed the Sports Car Club of BC --
--------------------
Cool.  This picture makes things look a bit "argy-bargy"!
from the formula car start (figure day 2?)
where the grid is close and three wide headed
into turn 1.
https://gerryfrechette.zenfolio.com/p903326935
 > But everyone was pretty respectful.
Cool.  That is good.
Post by Alan Baker
Ah. I was kind of right in the middle of that (number 21, black Van
Diemen with yellow nose and top of engine cover)
Yes. I had figured out that change in paint scheme.
What is going on?  3 of you Canadians are now running
black with yellow top color schemes.
And several others are yellow.
Oh well, trends come and go.
That's just the way the car came...
Wooosh!
So, I guess I'd missed that you bought a different FF than
what I had seen you in both in Canada and Pacific Raceways.
Yup. Over 5 year racing, I reached a few conclusions about what I'd like
for the next car if I could find it for the right price.

And I found pretty much exactly what I wanted on ApexSpeed, January 2018.

:-)

Then it took so long to get here that I ended up missing the first to
races of the year.

:-(
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It will probably get a paint job some time this year, but going faster
has a higher priority.
:-)
I agree with that.  Mostly.
t***@gmail.com
2019-04-23 22:57:46 UTC
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it was frustrating
I was satisfied
it was frustrating
I was satisfied
it was frustrating
I had to be satisfied
it was certainly satisfying
I was frustrated
I was definitely satisfied
it was frustrating
I was satisfied
I was definitely satisfied
I was frustrated
a satisfying race.
I had to be satisfied
So imagine my frustration
...I guess I'm satisfied.
lol
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