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**2020 Pool** Drivers and Constructors Championship predictions
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Mark
2020-02-25 08:51:28 UTC
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As in previous years, here's the chance to predict who the WDC and WCC
winners will be before wheels turn in anger.

The deadline for this will (as always) be at the start of FP1, 13th
March (or 12th for those significantly west of Europe & Africa).

Track (Melbourne) 13/03/2020 12:00 AEDT
Austin 12/03/2020 20:00 CDT
West Coast USA 12/03/2020 18:00 PDT
East Coast USA 12/03/2020 21:00 EDT
Ireland/Portugal/UK 13/03/2020 01:00 GMT
Central Europe 13/03/2020 02:00 CET
Most of Arabia 13/03/2020 04:00 AST
Most of Arabia 13/03/2020 04:00 AST
Russia/Oman/UAE 13/03/2020 05:00 GST
Russia/Oman/UAE 13/03/2020 05:00 GST
China 13/03/2020 09:00 CST
Japan/Korea 13/03/2020 10:00 JST
Perth 13/03/2020 09:00 AWST
Adelaide/Darwin 13/03/2020 11:30 ACDT
Melbourne/Canberra/Sydney 13/03/2020 12:00 AEDT
New Zealand 13/03/2020 14:00 NZDT
Russia 13/03/2020 04:00 MSK
Ukraine 13/03/2020 04:00 MSK
Mark
2020-02-25 09:00:58 UTC
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I am hoping my prediction is wrong this year (as I hoped last year),
but:

WDC: Lewis Hamilton
WCC: Mercedes
Darryl Johnson
2020-02-25 13:48:45 UTC
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Post by Mark
I am hoping my prediction is wrong this year (as I hoped last year),
WDC: Lewis Hamilton
WCC: Mercedes
Personally, I have no problems with Mercedes and Hamilton winning
again. I like to see some decent competition, mind, but I believe that
they deserve another win as they seem to be more "on top of things"
than the other teams.


WDC: Hamilton
WCC: Mercedes
Heron
2020-02-25 14:39:58 UTC
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Post by Mark
I am hoping my prediction is wrong this year (as I hoped last year),
WDC: Lewis Hamilton
WCC: Mercedes
So anyone else but would suit you fine? Thx hater.
Mark
2020-02-25 17:04:38 UTC
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Post by Heron
Post by Mark
I am hoping my prediction is wrong this year (as I hoped last year),
WDC: Lewis Hamilton
WCC: Mercedes
So anyone else but would suit you fine? Thx hater.
Fantastic insight.

I am fine with both Hamilton and Mercedes, but I am also a fan of sport,
and I don't think that having the same winners year on year is good for
F1 overall. I didn't like it when it was Schumacher, I don't feel any
different because it's Hamilton.

I also didn't say "anyone else but", nor should that be inferred.

Finally, I am not a "hater" - a lazy accusation in any case - and my
history in this group speaks for itself.

Any other questions?
Heron
2020-02-25 17:55:46 UTC
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Post by Mark
Post by Heron
Post by Mark
I am hoping my prediction is wrong this year (as I hoped last year),
WDC: Lewis Hamilton
WCC: Mercedes
So anyone else but would suit you fine? Thx hater.
Fantastic insight.
I am fine with both Hamilton and Mercedes, but I am also a fan of sport,
and I don't think that having the same winners year on year is good for
F1 overall. I didn't like it when it was Schumacher, I don't feel any
different because it's Hamilton.
I also didn't say "anyone else but", nor should that be inferred.
Finally, I am not a "hater" - a lazy accusation in any case - and my
history in this group speaks for itself.
Any other questions?
The 'question' was rhetorical. Regarding your
initial post, res ipsa loquitur.
t***@gmail.com
2020-02-25 18:43:41 UTC
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Post by Heron
The 'question' was rhetorical. Regarding your
initial post, res ipsa loquitur.
Hey Heron the Moron,
you entering the pool?
~misfit~
2020-02-25 23:46:30 UTC
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Post by Mark
Post by Heron
Post by Mark
I am hoping my prediction is wrong this year (as I hoped last year),
WDC: Lewis Hamilton
WCC: Mercedes
So anyone else but would suit you fine? Thx hater.
Fantastic insight.
I am fine with both Hamilton and Mercedes, but I am also a fan of sport,
and I don't think that having the same winners year on year is good for
F1 overall.  I didn't like it when it was Schumacher, I don't feel any
different because it's Hamilton.
I also didn't say "anyone else but", nor should that be inferred.
Finally, I am not a "hater" - a lazy accusation in any case - and my
history in this group speaks for itself.
Any other questions?
The 'question' was rhetorical. Regarding your
initial post, res ipsa loquitur.
Marks track record speaks for itself. Trotting out a common Latin phrase doesn't nullify a persons
intent. Only a lazy person would take something in isolation and out of context, then defend their
interpretation 'in tongues' (maybe you should consult an exorcist?).

Also the very definition of... Here:

-In the common law of torts, res ipsa loquitur (Latin for "the thing speaks for itself") is a
doctrine that infers negligence from the very nature of an accident or injury in the absence of
direct evidence on how any defendant behaved.-

There is no "absence of direct evidence on how any defendant behaved/s" in this 'case'. Anyone who
reads this group and is capable of even a little recall knows how "the defendant" (sorry Mark)
behaves. There are years of context in this group, you don't even have to go elsewhere to educate
yourself in this matter.

It seems that perhaps you've succumbed to the common 'outrage culture' and knee-jerk 'virtue
signalling' that's sweeping the digital space via social media. Don't bother in rasf1, unlike
faecebook this is a small community and people have memories. We know what your true /virtues/ are
from your history.
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t***@gmail.com
2020-02-26 07:21:36 UTC
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Post by ~misfit~
Marks track record speaks for itself. Trotting out a common Latin phrase doesn't nullify a persons
intent. Only a lazy person would take something in isolation and out of context, then defend their
interpretation 'in tongues' (maybe you should consult an exorcist?).
-In the common law of torts, res ipsa loquitur (Latin for "the thing speaks for itself") is a
doctrine that infers negligence from the very nature of an accident or injury in the absence of
direct evidence on how any defendant behaved.-
There is no "absence of direct evidence on how any defendant behaved/s" in this 'case'. Anyone who
reads this group and is capable of even a little recall knows how "the defendant" (sorry Mark)
behaves. There are years of context in this group, you don't even have to go elsewhere to educate
yourself in this matter.
It seems that perhaps you've succumbed to the common 'outrage culture' and knee-jerk 'virtue
signalling' that's sweeping the digital space via social media. Don't bother in rasf1, unlike
faecebook this is a small community and people have memories. We know what your true /virtues/ are
from your history.
--
Shaun.
"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM"
David Melville
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This from a Sky F1 pirater.
A pillar of society.
A negative mouthpiece with a chip on his shoulder.
Waiting for his next government handout groceries at his doorstep.
Martin Harran
2020-02-26 18:41:48 UTC
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Post by Heron
Post by Mark
Post by Heron
Post by Mark
I am hoping my prediction is wrong this year (as I hoped last year),
WDC: Lewis Hamilton
WCC: Mercedes
So anyone else but would suit you fine? Thx hater.
Fantastic insight.
I am fine with both Hamilton and Mercedes, but I am also a fan of sport,
and I don't think that having the same winners year on year is good for
F1 overall. I didn't like it when it was Schumacher, I don't feel any
different because it's Hamilton.
I also didn't say "anyone else but", nor should that be inferred.
Finally, I am not a "hater" - a lazy accusation in any case - and my
history in this group speaks for itself.
Any other questions?
The 'question' was rhetorical. Regarding your
initial post, res ipsa loquitur.
In my experience, people tossing out Latin phrases are usually
not-very-smart people trying to let on they are very-smart people.
Especially when they are trying to defend an indefensible position.
Sir Tim
2020-02-27 07:56:20 UTC
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Post by Martin Harran
Post by Heron
Post by Mark
Post by Heron
Post by Mark
I am hoping my prediction is wrong this year (as I hoped last year),
WDC: Lewis Hamilton
WCC: Mercedes
So anyone else but would suit you fine? Thx hater.
Fantastic insight.
I am fine with both Hamilton and Mercedes, but I am also a fan of sport,
and I don't think that having the same winners year on year is good for
F1 overall. I didn't like it when it was Schumacher, I don't feel any
different because it's Hamilton.
I also didn't say "anyone else but", nor should that be inferred.
Finally, I am not a "hater" - a lazy accusation in any case - and my
history in this group speaks for itself.
Any other questions?
The 'question' was rhetorical. Regarding your
initial post, res ipsa loquitur.
In my experience, people tossing out Latin phrases are usually
not-very-smart people trying to let on they are very-smart people.
Especially when they are trying to defend an indefensible position.
One of George Orwell’s “Five rules for effective writing” was:

“Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word if you can
think of an everyday English equivalent”.
t***@gmail.com
2020-02-28 02:58:20 UTC
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Post by Sir Tim
“Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word if you can
think of an everyday English equivalent”.
oh you sure told him. you forgot to repeat that you are old
t***@gmail.com
2020-02-28 03:07:45 UTC
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Post by Sir Tim
“Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word if you can
think of an everyday English equivalent”.
Make your F1 picks bozo
t***@gmail.com
2020-02-28 03:33:44 UTC
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Post by Sir Tim
George Orwell
His pen name? You brits are more fucked up than I thought.
t***@gmail.com
2020-02-28 03:17:26 UTC
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Post by Martin Harran
In my experience, people tossing out Latin phrases are usually
not-very-smart people trying to let on they are very-smart people.
Especially when they are trying to defend an indefensible position.
thanks harry martin
John
2020-02-25 09:54:33 UTC
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Hamilton in the Merc......sigh
t***@gmail.com
2020-02-26 06:57:55 UTC
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Post by John
Hamilton in the Merc......sigh
You in the pool dip fuck?
Vasco Costa
2020-02-25 14:51:54 UTC
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I am hoping my prediction is correct this year (as it has been since
2017),

WDC: Lewis Hamilton
WCC: Mercedes

That being said, I honestly hope RBR makes yet another step forward
enough to allow Verstappen to challenge the WDC.
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technology, traveling and TV series. Yes I'm a bit of a geek.
Heron
2020-02-25 14:57:29 UTC
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Post by Vasco Costa
I am hoping my prediction is correct this year (as it has been since
2017),
WDC: Lewis Hamilton
WCC: Mercedes
That being said, I honestly hope RBR makes yet another step forward
enough to allow Verstappen to challenge the WDC.
The problems aren't with RBR, but among them is MV causing crashes.
Vasco Costa
2020-02-25 15:06:35 UTC
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Post by Vasco Costa
I am hoping my prediction is correct this year (as it has been since
2017),
WDC: Lewis Hamilton
WCC: Mercedes
That being said, I honestly hope RBR makes yet another step forward
enough to allow Verstappen to challenge the WDC.
The problems aren't with RBR, but among them is MV causing crashes.
Yes, I don't appreciate that side of him either. But despite his
aggressive style, IMHO he made some effort to improve last season.
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Vasco Costa

AKA gluon. Enthusiastic about computers, motorsport, science,
technology, traveling and TV series. Yes I'm a bit of a geek.
fnot
2020-02-25 19:29:29 UTC
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WCC : Ferrari
WDC : Vettel
~misfit~
2020-02-25 23:49:31 UTC
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Post by fnot
WCC : Ferrari
WDC : Vettel
Awww bless. ;-)
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Shaun.

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2020-02-26 07:01:14 UTC
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Awww bless. ;-)
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Shaun.
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in the DSM"
David Melville
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Make your picks negative cunthole.
~misfit~
2020-02-25 23:47:46 UTC
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Post by Vasco Costa
I am hoping my prediction is correct this year (as it has been since
2017),
WDC: Lewis Hamilton
WCC: Mercedes
That being said, I honestly hope RBR makes yet another step forward
enough to allow Verstappen to challenge the WDC.
The problems aren't with RBR, but among them is MV causing crashes.
Haters are going to hate....
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Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM"
David Melville

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2020-02-26 07:03:00 UTC
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Haters are going to hate....
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Shaun.
"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM"
David Melville
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Thats you cock sucker. Make your picks. Asshole
Jimbo
2020-02-26 03:20:00 UTC
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WDC: Hamilton
WCC: Mercedes
Martin Harran
2020-02-26 20:32:13 UTC
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WDC: Lewis Hamilton
WCC: Mercedes

Hard to see anything else
Hornplayer9599
2020-02-27 01:18:11 UTC
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Post by Mark
As in previous years, here's the chance to predict who the WDC and WCC
winners will be before wheels turn in anger.
WDC: HAM
WCC: Merc

Although, I must admit that I think the title fights will be closer
this year.
--
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ability, or size.
I base it on whether or not they’re an asshole.
D Munz
2020-02-28 20:49:14 UTC
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WDC: Hamilton
WCC: RBR

Why not. This year is going to be closer with more chaos over consistency. I've always been a fan of Horner, I'm worried about success fatigue setting in at Mercedes, and Ferrari is, well, Ferrari...

FWIW
DLM
Out Cider
2020-03-03 13:24:07 UTC
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Post by Darryl Johnson
WDC: Hamilton
WCC: RBR
I don't see this happening. Albon is not good enough to help RBR getting
WCC. While Bottas is no Hamilton, he has shown to be a reliable wingman,
with the talent for getting the occasional win or two. Which should make
for an easy WCC.

So, as boring as it is, I'll settle with the obvious:
WDC: Ham
WCC: Merc
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D Munz
2020-03-03 15:44:32 UTC
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Post by Darryl Johnson
WDC: Hamilton
WCC: RBR
I don't see this happening. Albon is not good enough to help RBR getting
WCC. While Bottas is no Hamilton, he has shown to be a reliable wingman,
with the talent for getting the occasional win or two. Which should make
for an easy WCC.
OutCider
I don't disagree with you. I guess I'm banking on the the MERC push-to-steer thing blowing up in their faces over the course of the season. If MERC and Ferrari are out, who's left?

I never win anyway.

FWIW
DLM
Sir Tim
2020-02-28 21:09:31 UTC
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WDC: Verstappen
WCC: Mercedes
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Sir Tim
Sreekumar A
2020-03-04 09:13:26 UTC
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WDC : HAM
WCC : Mercedes

Sreekumar
Ar
2020-03-05 16:22:53 UTC
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Post by Mark
As in previous years, here's the chance to predict who the WDC and WCC
winners will be before wheels turn in anger.
Thanks for doing this again Mark.

Driver: Charles Leclerc
Constructor: Ferrari
durian
2020-03-09 08:55:32 UTC
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Post by Mark
As in previous years, here's the chance to predict who the WDC and WCC
winners will be before wheels turn in anger.
What I want: Verstappen/RedBull, but I don't see that happening yet. So my prediction is:
HAM/Mercedes

-peter
Phil Carmody
2020-03-09 15:02:07 UTC
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Post by Mark
As in previous years, here's the chance to predict who the WDC and WCC
winners will be before wheels turn in anger.
As in previous years, let's join the snorey-borey club and just go:

WDC: HAM
WCC: Merc.

Cheers for running this again!
Phil
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Mark Jackson
2020-03-09 15:08:00 UTC
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Post by Mark
As in previous years, here's the chance to predict who the WDC and
WCC winners will be before wheels turn in anger.
WDC: Hamilton
WCC: Mercedes

Assuming the required minimum number of events actually happen. . . .
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~misfit~
2020-03-09 23:04:43 UTC
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Post by Mark
As in previous years, here's the chance to predict who the WDC and WCC
winners will be before wheels turn in anger.
WDC: Hamilton
WCC: Mercedes

Thanks Mark.
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Shaun.

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FB
2020-03-11 13:37:04 UTC
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LEC - Ferrari
Mark
2020-06-29 10:56:59 UTC
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Post by Mark
As in previous years, here's the chance to predict who the WDC and WCC
winners will be before wheels turn in anger.
The deadline for this will now be at the start of FP1, 3rd June.

So far, I have:

Entrant WDC WCC
Mark HAM Mercedes
Darryl Johnson HAM Mercedes
John HAM Mercedes
Vasco Costa HAM Mercedes
fnot VET Ferrari
Jimbo HAM Mercedes
Martin Harran HAM Mercedes
Hornblower9599 HAM Mercedes
D Munz HAM RBR
Out Cider HAM Mercedes
Sir Tim VER Mercedes
Sreekumar A HAM Mercedes
Ar LEC Ferrari
durian HAM Mercedes
Phil Carmody HAM Mercedes
Mark Jackson HAM Mercedes
Shaun HAM Mercedes
FB LEC Ferrari
Darryl Johnson
2020-06-29 15:44:16 UTC
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Post by Mark
As in previous years, here's the chance to predict who the WDC and WCC
winners will be before wheels turn in anger.
The deadline for this will now be at the start of FP1, 3rd June.
Uh, July?
Post by Mark
Entrant WDC WCC
Mark HAM Mercedes
Darryl Johnson HAM Mercedes
John HAM Mercedes
Vasco Costa HAM Mercedes
fnot VET Ferrari
Jimbo HAM Mercedes
Martin Harran HAM Mercedes
Hornblower9599 HAM Mercedes
D Munz HAM RBR
Out Cider HAM Mercedes
Sir Tim VER Mercedes
Sreekumar A HAM Mercedes
Ar LEC Ferrari
durian HAM Mercedes
Phil Carmody HAM Mercedes
Mark Jackson HAM Mercedes
Shaun HAM Mercedes
FB LEC Ferrari
Mark
2020-06-29 16:34:30 UTC
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Post by Mark
Post by Mark
As in previous years, here's the chance to predict who the WDC and WCC
winners will be before wheels turn in anger.
The deadline for this will now be at the start of FP1, 3rd June.
Uh, July?
I can barely remember which *year* it is the way things are right now!
;-)
Darryl Johnson
2020-06-29 17:05:06 UTC
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Post by Darryl Johnson
Post by Mark
Post by Mark
As in previous years, here's the chance to predict who the WDC and WCC
winners will be before wheels turn in anger.
The deadline for this will now be at the start of FP1, 3rd June.
Uh, July?
I can barely remember which *year* it is the way things are right now!
;-)
Don't I know it!
fnot
2020-07-02 22:33:29 UTC
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Please add fnot.
Pole - BLM
1st - LEC
2nd - BLM
3rd - VER
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Post by Mark
As in previous years, here's the chance to predict who the WDC and WCC
winners will be before wheels turn in anger.
The deadline for this will now be at the start of FP1, 3rd June.
Entrant WDC WCC
Mark HAM Mercedes
Darryl Johnson HAM Mercedes
John HAM Mercedes
Vasco Costa HAM Mercedes
fnot VET Ferrari
Jimbo HAM Mercedes
Martin Harran HAM Mercedes
Hornblower9599 HAM Mercedes
D Munz HAM RBR
Out Cider HAM Mercedes
Sir Tim VER Mercedes
Sreekumar A HAM Mercedes
Ar LEC Ferrari
durian HAM Mercedes
Phil Carmody HAM Mercedes
Mark Jackson HAM Mercedes
Shaun HAM Mercedes
FB LEC Ferrari
fnot
2020-07-02 22:37:47 UTC
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Sorry 'bout that...
Pole - HAM
1st - LEC
2nd - HAM
3rd - VER
WDC - HAM
WCC - MERC
Post by Mark
Post by Mark
As in previous years, here's the chance to predict who the WDC and WCC
winners will be before wheels turn in anger.
The deadline for this will now be at the start of FP1, 3rd June.
Entrant WDC WCC
Mark HAM Mercedes
Darryl Johnson HAM Mercedes
John HAM Mercedes
Vasco Costa HAM Mercedes
fnot VET Ferrari
Jimbo HAM Mercedes
Martin Harran HAM Mercedes
Hornblower9599 HAM Mercedes
D Munz HAM RBR
Out Cider HAM Mercedes
Sir Tim VER Mercedes
Sreekumar A HAM Mercedes
Ar LEC Ferrari
durian HAM Mercedes
Phil Carmody HAM Mercedes
Mark Jackson HAM Mercedes
Shaun HAM Mercedes
FB LEC Ferrari
Mark
2020-07-03 08:25:49 UTC
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Post by Mark
As in previous years, here's the chance to predict who the WDC and WCC
winners will be before wheels turn in anger.
The deadline for this will (as always) be at the start of FP1...
...maybe. I think it makes sense to be flexible given the mixed up
schedule.

So far, I have:

Entrant WDC WCC
Mark HAM Mercedes
Darryl Johnson HAM Mercedes
John HAM Mercedes
Vasco Costa HAM Mercedes
Jimbo HAM Mercedes
Martin Harran HAM Mercedes
Hornblower9599 HAM Mercedes
D Munz HAM RBR
Out Cider HAM Mercedes
Sir Tim VER Mercedes
Sreekumar A HAM Mercedes
Ar LEC Ferrari
durian HAM Mercedes
Phil Carmody HAM Mercedes
Mark Jackson HAM Mercedes
Shaun HAM Mercedes
FB LEC Ferrari
fnot HAM Mercedes

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