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OT, but I know there are flying fans out there
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bra
2017-09-05 18:37:22 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?




Alan Baker
2017-09-05 18:43:58 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Yes.
Post by bra
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
And yes.
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http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
Don't need to see it... ...but still cool.

:-)
bra
2017-09-05 18:51:07 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Yes.
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Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
And yes.
Don't need to see it... ...but still cool.
:-)
I did need to see it, twice, in order to believe my eyes.
Alan Baker
2017-09-05 18:58:27 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Yes.
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Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
And yes.
Don't need to see it... ...but still cool.
:-)
I did need to see it, twice, in order to believe my eyes.
This one I've known about for quite a while, but basically anywhere you
can get a headwind strong enough with an aircraft with a stall speed
higher than the headwind speed, you can make this happen.

If 10 feet was unbelievable, watch this one:


Geoff May
2017-09-05 20:20:35 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Yes.
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Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
And yes.
Don't need to see it... ...but still cool.
:-)
I did need to see it, twice, in order to believe my eyes.
I believe the Fieseler Storch was the first really effective STOL
aircraft. In a headwind (don't know the speed) it could fly backward.

https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=572

Cheers

Geoff
Alan Baker
2017-09-05 20:27:26 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Yes.
Post by bra
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
And yes.
Don't need to see it... ...but still cool.
:-)
I did need to see it, twice, in order to believe my eyes.
I believe the Fieseler Storch was the first really effective STOL
aircraft. In a headwind (don't know the speed) it could fly backward.
https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=572
Cheers
Geoff
That certainly was one of the very first if it wasn't the outright
first, yeah.

:-)

The British were producing the Westland Lysander at almost precisely the
same time:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westland_Lysander

Their first flights (as recorded by Wikipedia) were less than a month
apart, but the Storch was first.
geoff
2017-09-05 20:14:15 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Yes.
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Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
And yes.
Post by bra
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
Don't need to see it... ...but still cool.
:-)
You wouldn't need to see it because you already know everything, eh .

geoff
Alan Baker
2017-09-05 20:23:56 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Yes.
Post by bra
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
And yes.
Post by bra
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
Don't need to see it... ...but still cool.
:-)
You wouldn't need to see it because you already know everything, eh .
geoff
Nope.

Because I had already seen this:

http://youtu.be/HJJI3kPZ0-I

Personally, I find it amusing how many people believe that if they see
something for the first time, then it must be an incredible revelation
to everyone they tell about it.

:-)
Bruce Hoult
2017-09-05 20:30:49 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Yes.
Post by bra
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
And yes.
Post by bra
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
Don't need to see it... ...but still cool.
:-)
You wouldn't need to see it because you already know everything, eh .
geoff
Nope.
http://youtu.be/HJJI3kPZ0-I
Personally, I find it amusing how many people believe that if they see
something for the first time, then it must be an incredible revelation
to everyone they tell about it.
:-)
Around here we call it Trump Syndrome. "Not many people know ..." means "I just learned ..."

In 1976 my highschool physics teacher told us how during the war he did a little bit of flying training in Tiger Moths, and in a decent NZ wind they could fly backwards across the airfield.
Alan Baker
2017-09-05 20:47:22 UTC
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Post by bra
Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Yes.
Post by bra
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
And yes.
Post by bra
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
Don't need to see it... ...but still cool.
:-)
You wouldn't need to see it because you already know everything, eh .
geoff
Nope.
http://youtu.be/HJJI3kPZ0-I
Personally, I find it amusing how many people believe that if they see
something for the first time, then it must be an incredible revelation
to everyone they tell about it.
:-)
Around here we call it Trump Syndrome. "Not many people know ..." means "I just learned ..."
In 1976 my highschool physics teacher told us how during the war he did a little bit of flying training in Tiger Moths, and in a decent NZ wind they could fly backwards across the airfield.
My stepdad had the delight of flying with a crazy outback helicopter
pilot the day after he asked what would happen if the engine quit. The
pilot explained about autorotation, but the next day, he demonstrated it.

He flew a normal landing pattern, but instead of ending up at 15-20'
above the taxiway and finally his landing pad, he was still at altitude.
He calmly switched of the engine, looked at my stepdad and said:

"Well... ...you did ask."

:-)
alister
2017-09-05 21:01:04 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
sorry
has no one herd of the Harrier?
--
Now I think I just reached the state of HYPERTENSION that comes JUST
BEFORE you see the TOTAL at the SAFEWAY CHECKOUT COUNTER!
Alan Baker
2017-09-05 21:06:51 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
sorry
has no one herd of the Harrier?
Oh that answer was just too easy...

:-)
Bigbird
2017-09-05 21:29:59 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
sorry
has no one herd of the Harrier?
Oh that answer was just too easy...
Wish you'd thought of it, huh?

:)
Alan Baker
2017-09-05 21:35:22 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
sorry
has no one herd of the Harrier?
Oh that answer was just too easy...
Wish you'd thought of it, huh?
:)
Nope.

I thought of it and rejected it.

Seriously: aviation has been an interest of mine since I was old enough
to understand what it meant that my grandfather was the second in
command of the RAF when he retired.

:-)
Bigbird
2017-09-05 21:45:57 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
sorry
has no one herd of the Harrier?
Oh that answer was just too easy...
Wish you'd thought of it, huh?
:)
Nope.
I thought of it and rejected it.
Riiiight!!!!

:)
Alan Baker
2017-09-05 21:50:53 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
sorry
has no one herd of the Harrier?
Oh that answer was just too easy...
Wish you'd thought of it, huh?
:)
Nope.
I thought of it and rejected it.
Riiiight!!!!
:)
Yup.

I know this is hard for someone of your obviously limited intellectual
gifts to understand, but I have multiple interests and many subjects
with which I have more than a passing familiarity.

:-)
Bigbird
2017-09-05 21:47:01 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
sorry
has no one herd of the Harrier?
Oh that answer was just too easy...
Wish you'd thought of it, huh?
:)
Nope.
I thought of it and rejected it.
Seriously: aviation has been an interest of mine since I was old
enough to understand what it meant that my grandfather was the second
in command of the RAF when he retired.
So you really wish you'd thought of it then.

:)
Alan Baker
2017-09-05 21:51:12 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
sorry
has no one herd of the Harrier?
Oh that answer was just too easy...
Wish you'd thought of it, huh?
:)
Nope.
I thought of it and rejected it.
Seriously: aviation has been an interest of mine since I was old
enough to understand what it meant that my grandfather was the second
in command of the RAF when he retired.
So you really wish you'd thought of it then.
:)
Nope.

I thought of it and rejected it, just as I said.

:-)
alister
2017-09-06 08:19:44 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
sorry has no one herd of the Harrier?
Oh that answer was just too easy...
Wish you'd thought of it, huh?
:)
Nope.
I thought of it and rejected it.
Seriously: aviation has been an interest of mine since I was old enough
to understand what it meant that my grandfather was the second in
command of the RAF when he retired.
I call bull shit on that one - prove it
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:-)
--
Schizophrenia beats being alone.
Bigbird
2017-09-06 08:50:27 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
sorry has no one herd of the Harrier?
Oh that answer was just too easy...
Wish you'd thought of it, huh?
:)
Nope.
I thought of it and rejected it.
Seriously: aviation has been an interest of mine since I was old
enough to understand what it meant that my grandfather was the
second in command of the RAF when he retired.
I call bull shit on that one - prove it
I call totally fucking irrelevant; Baker's specialist subject.

:)
Sir Tim
2017-09-06 08:59:37 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
sorry has no one herd of the Harrier?
Oh that answer was just too easy...
Wish you'd thought of it, huh?
:)
Nope.
I thought of it and rejected it.
Seriously: aviation has been an interest of mine since I was old enough
to understand what it meant that my grandfather was the second in
command of the RAF when he retired.
I call bull shit on that one - prove it
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Baker_(RAF_officer)
--
Sir Tim
Bigbird
2017-09-06 09:05:57 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
sorry has no one herd of the Harrier?
Oh that answer was just too easy...
Wish you'd thought of it, huh?
:)
Nope.
I thought of it and rejected it.
Seriously: aviation has been an interest of mine since I was old
enough >> to understand what it meant that my grandfather was the
second in >> command of the RAF when he retired.
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I call bull shit on that one - prove it
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Baker_(RAF_officer)
I see no mention of a grandson. ;)

No, seriously don't indulge this nonsense; it's as relevant as Baker's
repeated grammatical errors. :)
Alan Baker
2017-09-06 16:02:50 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
sorry has no one herd of the Harrier?
Oh that answer was just too easy...
Wish you'd thought of it, huh?
:)
Nope.
I thought of it and rejected it.
Seriously: aviation has been an interest of mine since I was old
enough >> to understand what it meant that my grandfather was the
second in >> command of the RAF when he retired.
Post by alister
I call bull shit on that one - prove it
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Baker_(RAF_officer)
I see no mention of a grandson. ;)
<http://v1.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/Deaths.20090618.93199362/BDAStory/BDA/deaths>
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No, seriously don't indulge this nonsense; it's as relevant as Baker's
repeated grammatical errors. :)
But when you want to indulge, that's all cool, right?

:-)
Bigbird
2017-09-06 16:23:02 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than
20 feet? Can an airplane land and stop in less than
10 feet?
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
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Post by Bigbird
Post by alister
Post by Alan Baker
Post by Bigbird
Post by Alan Baker
sorry has no one herd of the Harrier?
Oh that answer was just too easy...
Wish you'd thought of it, huh?
:)
Nope.
I thought of it and rejected it.
Seriously: aviation has been an interest of mine since I was old
enough >> to understand what it meant that my grandfather was the
second in >> command of the RAF when he retired.
Post by alister
I call bull shit on that one - prove it
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Baker_(RAF_officer)
I see no mention of a grandson. ;)
<http://v1.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/Deaths.20090618.93199362/BDAStory/BDA/deaths>
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No, seriously don't indulge this nonsense; it's as relevant as
Baker's repeated grammatical errors. :)
But when you want to indulge, that's all cool, right?
:-)
Twat!
Alan Baker
2017-09-06 16:40:44 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than
20 feet? Can an airplane land and stop in less than
10 feet?
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
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Post by alister
Post by Alan Baker
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sorry has no one herd of the Harrier?
Oh that answer was just too easy...
Wish you'd thought of it, huh?
:)
Nope.
I thought of it and rejected it.
Seriously: aviation has been an interest of mine since I was old
enough >> to understand what it meant that my grandfather was the
second in >> command of the RAF when he retired.
Post by alister
I call bull shit on that one - prove it
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Baker_(RAF_officer)
I see no mention of a grandson. ;)
<http://v1.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/Deaths.20090618.93199362/BDAStory/BDA/deaths>
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Post by Bigbird
No, seriously don't indulge this nonsense; it's as relevant as
Baker's repeated grammatical errors. :)
But when you want to indulge, that's all cool, right?
:-)
Twat!
See?

:-)
Bigbird
2017-09-06 17:16:03 UTC
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Twat!
See?
:-)
Remind me what your nickname RAT stands for.

:)))))
Alan Baker
2017-09-06 17:23:13 UTC
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Twat!
See?
:-)
Remind me what your nickname RAT stands for.
:)))))
Remind me what you said about "not indulging"...

Oh, but you've snipped out your words, haven't you?

Such character!

:-)
Bigbird
2017-09-06 17:58:28 UTC
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Twat!
See?
:-)
Remind me what your nickname RAT stands for.
:)))))
Remind me what you said about "not indulging"...
Oh, but you've snipped out your words, haven't you?
Such character!
:-)
So you are too stupid to look back a couple of posts, "RESIDENT ASSHOLE
TROLL".

Such character indeed!

:))))))))))))))))))
Alan Baker
2017-09-06 18:00:37 UTC
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Twat!
See?
:-)
Remind me what your nickname RAT stands for.
:)))))
Remind me what you said about "not indulging"...
Oh, but you've snipped out your words, haven't you?
Such character!
:-)
So you are too stupid to look back a couple of posts, "RESIDENT ASSHOLE
TROLL".
You are too hypocritical to live by the rules you want to set for others.
Bigbird
2017-09-06 18:08:04 UTC
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So you are too stupid to look back a couple of posts, "RESIDENT
ASSHOLE TROLL".
You are too hypocritical to live by the rules you want to set for others.
1. I don't set rules for others; that is yet another falsehood.

2. You're wrong.
Alan Baker
2017-09-06 18:16:51 UTC
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So you are too stupid to look back a couple of posts, "RESIDENT
ASSHOLE TROLL".
You are too hypocritical to live by the rules you want to set for others.
1. I don't set rules for others; that is yet another falsehood.
And yet you've AGAIN carefully removed what you wrote:


"No, seriously don't indulge this nonsense"


Care to explain what that text was intended to tell Sir Tim?

:-)
Bigbird
2017-09-06 18:57:17 UTC
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So you are too stupid to look back a couple of posts, "RESIDENT
ASSHOLE TROLL".
It suggests he should not bother with the irrelevant shit about your
dead relative who cannot support you claims.
Bigbird
2017-09-06 18:59:16 UTC
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So you are too stupid to look back a couple of posts,
"RESIDENT ASSHOLE TROLL".
It suggests he should not bother with the irrelevant shit about your
dead relative who cannot support you claims.
*supposed relative.

(I wouldn't put it beyond you to be a falsehood)
Alan Baker
2017-09-06 19:02:39 UTC
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So you are too stupid to look back a couple of posts,
"RESIDENT ASSHOLE TROLL".
It suggests he should not bother with the irrelevant shit about your
dead relative who cannot support you claims.
*supposed relative.
(I wouldn't put it beyond you to be a falsehood)
It certainly looks like you're "indulging" the very thing you wanted
"Sir Tim" to avoid, doesn't it?

I don't lie.

Pity you can't say the same of yourself.
Bigbird
2017-09-06 19:05:27 UTC
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So you are too stupid to look back a couple of posts,
"RESIDENT ASSHOLE TROLL".
It suggests he should not bother with the irrelevant shit about
your
Post by Bigbird
Post by Bigbird
dead relative who cannot support you claims.
*supposed relative.
(I wouldn't put it beyond you to be a falsehood)
It certainly looks like you're "indulging" the very thing you wanted
"Sir Tim" to avoid, doesn't it?
That is a flasehood
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I don't lie.
*That* is a lie
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Pity you can't say the same of yourself.
That is a lie.
Alan Baker
2017-09-06 19:16:50 UTC
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So you are too stupid to look back a couple of posts,
"RESIDENT ASSHOLE TROLL".
It suggests he should not bother with the irrelevant shit about
your
Post by Bigbird
Post by Bigbird
dead relative who cannot support you claims.
*supposed relative.
(I wouldn't put it beyond you to be a falsehood)
It certainly looks like you're "indulging" the very thing you wanted
"Sir Tim" to avoid, doesn't it?
That is a flasehood
No. It's not.

Here you are trying to rebut the very "nonsense" you wanted "Sir Tim" to
eschew.
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I don't lie.
*That* is a lie
No, it isn't.
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Pity you can't say the same of yourself.
That is a lie.
RIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.
Bigbird
2017-09-06 19:34:04 UTC
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So you are too stupid to look back a couple of posts,
"RESIDENT ASSHOLE TROLL".
It suggests he should not bother with the irrelevant shit about
your
Post by Bigbird
Post by Bigbird
dead relative who cannot support you claims.
*supposed relative.
(I wouldn't put it beyond you to be a falsehood)
It certainly looks like you're "indulging" the very thing you
wanted "Sir Tim" to avoid, doesn't it?
That is a flasehood
No. It's not.
Here you are trying to rebut the very "nonsense" you wanted "Sir Tim"
to eschew.
That is another falsehood.

I responded directly to one of your falsehoods.

It is a lie to call that the same thing as responding to a general and
totally irrelevant post.

Try to stop the lying now please.
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I don't lie.
*That* is a lie
No, it isn't.
That is yet another lie.

Please stop.
Alan Baker
2017-09-06 19:44:46 UTC
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So you are too stupid to look back a couple of posts,
"RESIDENT ASSHOLE TROLL".
It suggests he should not bother with the irrelevant shit about
your
Post by Bigbird
Post by Bigbird
dead relative who cannot support you claims.
*supposed relative.
(I wouldn't put it beyond you to be a falsehood)
It certainly looks like you're "indulging" the very thing you
wanted "Sir Tim" to avoid, doesn't it?
That is a flasehood
No. It's not.
Here you are trying to rebut the very "nonsense" you wanted "Sir Tim"
to eschew.
That is another falsehood.
I responded directly to one of your falsehoods.
No; on two levels:

1. It wasn't a falsehood.
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It is a lie to call that the same thing as responding to a general and
totally irrelevant post.
2. You just don't like that he didn't try to accuse me of a falsehood.

So again, you want to prevent anyone from responding to my "nonsense"...

...unless you want to respond...

...then the rule for you is different.

:-)
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Try to stop the lying now please.
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I don't lie.
*That* is a lie
No, it isn't.
That is yet another lie.
Please stop.
Nope. It is the truth. I don't lie. The scope of that statement is
limited to OUR interactions, but I assumed you were bright enough to
infer that.

My mistake, I freely admit.
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2017-09-06 19:48:02 UTC
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So you are too stupid to look back a couple of
posts, "RESIDENT ASSHOLE TROLL".
It suggests he should not bother with the irrelevant shit
about
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your
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dead relative who cannot support you claims.
*supposed relative.
(I wouldn't put it beyond you to be a falsehood)
It certainly looks like you're "indulging" the very thing you
wanted "Sir Tim" to avoid, doesn't it?
That is a flasehood
No. It's not.
Here you are trying to rebut the very "nonsense" you wanted "Sir
Tim" to eschew.
That is another falsehood.
I responded directly to one of your falsehoods.
1. It wasn't a falsehood.
Yes, it clearly is.
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So you are too stupid to look back a couple of
posts, "RESIDENT ASSHOLE TROLL".
It suggests he should not bother with the irrelevant shit
about
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your
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dead relative who cannot support you claims.
*supposed relative.
(I wouldn't put it beyond you to be a falsehood)
It certainly looks like you're "indulging" the very thing you
wanted "Sir Tim" to avoid, doesn't it?
That is a flasehood
No. It's not.
Here you are trying to rebut the very "nonsense" you wanted "Sir
Tim" to eschew.
That is another falsehood.
I responded directly to one of your falsehoods.
1. It wasn't a falsehood.
Yes, it clearly is.
Explain how my statement about my grandfather was false, pet...

:-)
Bigbird
2017-09-06 20:49:40 UTC
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Explain how my statement about my grandfather was false, pet...
:-)
Explain where I said it was, lying twat!

No, don't. Just learn to fucking read, work out where you went wrong
for yourself and stop bothering people, RAT.
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2017-09-06 20:54:20 UTC
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Explain how my statement about my grandfather was false, pet...
:-)
Explain where I said it was, lying twat!
Then what were you claiming was a falsehood, pet?
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No, don't. Just learn to fucking read, work out where you went wrong
for yourself and stop bothering people, RAT.
I'm not bothering anyone, pet...

(well: except you obviously)

Anyone who reads the subject line gets to decide for his or herself
whether or not to read the rest.

But perhaps that's just another thing you haven't figured out yet.

:-)
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2017-09-07 16:51:36 UTC
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Explain how my statement about my grandfather was false, pet...
:-)
Explain where I said it was, lying twat!
Then what were you claiming was a falsehood, pet?
Read the posts, it's that easy. You Twat!
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2017-09-07 17:04:00 UTC
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Explain how my statement about my grandfather was false, pet...
:-)
Explain where I said it was, lying twat!
Then what were you claiming was a falsehood, pet?
Read the posts, it's that easy. You Twat!
So you can't find one...

I thought as much.

:-)
Bigbird
2017-09-08 19:23:24 UTC
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Then what were you claiming was a falsehood, pet?
Read the posts, it's that easy. You Twat!
So you can't find one...
I thought as much.
Well, that's yet another falsehood. The thread details many.

Way to show your colours, filthy liar.

:))))))
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2017-09-08 19:30:57 UTC
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Then what were you claiming was a falsehood, pet?
Read the posts, it's that easy. You Twat!
So you can't find one...
I thought as much.
Well, that's yet another falsehood. The thread details many.
And yet you cannot actually quote one...

...strange, huh?
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Way to show your colours, filthy liar.
:))))))
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2017-09-09 10:03:04 UTC
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Then what were you claiming was a falsehood, pet?
Read the posts, it's that easy. You Twat!
So you can't find one...
I thought as much.
Well, that's yet another falsehood. The thread details many.
And yet you cannot actually quote one...
...strange, huh?
Another falsehood.

One was quoted in that post and many others you can find in the thread
above.

No need for me to waste time re-reading and requoting them.
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Way to show your colours, filthy liar.
:))))))
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Then what were you claiming was a falsehood, pet?
Read the posts, it's that easy. You Twat!
So you can't find one...
I thought as much.
Well, that's yet another falsehood. The thread details many.
And yet you cannot actually quote one...
...strange, huh?
Another falsehood.
One was quoted in that post and many others you can find in the thread
above.
No need for me to waste time re-reading and requoting them.
You have all the time to waste to avoid quoting one though, don't you?
t***@gmail.com
2017-09-06 23:19:01 UTC
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stop bothering people
lol
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2017-09-06 19:01:12 UTC
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So you are too stupid to look back a couple of posts, "RESIDENT
ASSHOLE TROLL".
It suggests he should not bother with the irrelevant shit about your
dead relative who cannot support you claims.
And you snipped it AGAIN!

But I did support it, didn't I?

How much more do you need than my father's obit?

:-)
Bigbird
2017-09-06 19:07:47 UTC
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So you are too stupid to look back a couple of posts,
"RESIDENT ASSHOLE TROLL".
It suggests he should not bother with the irrelevant shit about
your dead relative who cannot support you claims.
But I did support it, didn't I?
Not only is your grammar not as good as you think but your reading
comprehension is abysmal.

Home schooled?
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2017-09-06 19:15:51 UTC
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So you are too stupid to look back a couple of posts,
"RESIDENT ASSHOLE TROLL".
It suggests he should not bother with the irrelevant shit about
your dead relative who cannot support you claims.
But I did support it, didn't I?
Not only is your grammar not as good as you think [it is,] but your reading
comprehension is abysmal.
Sorry, but emphasis doesn't come through in text:

But /I/ /did/ support it, didn't I?
Home schooled?
Still can't live by the rules you want others to follow...

Very sad for you.

:-(
Bigbird
2017-09-06 19:46:40 UTC
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So you are too stupid to look back a couple of posts,
"RESIDENT ASSHOLE TROLL".
It suggests he should not bother with the irrelevant shit about
your dead relative who cannot support you claims.
But I did support it, didn't I?
Not only is your grammar not as good as you think [it is,] but your
reading comprehension is abysmal.
But I did support it, didn't I?
As that claim bears no relevance to anything I wrote it is meaningless.

I think I may have mentioned to you before.

1. Stop posting without reading or thinking about what you are typing.
2. Your reading comprehenison skills are well below average, so...
really; stop posting without reading or thinking about what you are
typing.
3. I have no interest in your dead relatives, real or imagined; they
are quite irrelevant.
4. Stop posting irrelevant shit.

NB these are suggestions not rules.
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Home schooled?
Still can't live by the rules you want others to follow...
Er..

1. What *rules*?
2. Last night you pounced on some mistyping to criticise my schooling;
don't like the compliment returned do you, snowflake?
3. You fucking hypocrite.
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So you are too stupid to look back a couple of posts,
"RESIDENT ASSHOLE TROLL".
It suggests he should not bother with the irrelevant shit about
your dead relative who cannot support you claims.
But I did support it, didn't I?
Not only is your grammar not as good as you think [it is,] but your
reading comprehension is abysmal.
But I did support it, didn't I?
As that claim bears no relevance to anything I wrote it is meaningless.
Which is why you've now run back and avoided replying to the post where
I made clear its relevance...
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I think I may have mentioned to you before.
1. Stop posting without reading or thinking about what you are typing.
Irony!
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2. Your reading comprehenison skills are well below average, so...
really; stop posting without reading or thinking about what you are
typing.
High irony!
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3. I have no interest in your dead relatives, real or imagined; they
are quite irrelevant.
Which is why you've now twice—or is it three times?—implied I'm lying
about him...
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4. Stop posting irrelevant shit.
But you'll feel yourself free to post it whenever you like, right?
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NB these are suggestions not rules.
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Home schooled?
Still can't live by the rules you want others to follow...
Er..
1. What *rules*?
When you suggest a course of action to be used in all cases that is a
RULE. You seem to be completely lacking in any sense of nuance, so I'll
help you:

'Definition of rule
1
a : a prescribed guide for conduct or action'

<https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rule>

You prescribed a "guide for conduct" to Sir Tim that you, yourself,
don't follow.

Got it now?
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2. Last night you pounced on some mistyping to criticise my schooling;
don't like the compliment returned do you, snowflake?
I don't care in the least, pet.

I'm taking the piss out of you...

...and it's obvious you REALLY don't like it (did you see the emphasis
there?).

:-)
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3. You fucking hypocrite.
Delicious irony!
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As that claim bears no relevance to anything I wrote it is
meaningless.
Which is why you've now run back
??? WTF in your tiny mind is that intended to mean?
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and avoided replying to the post
where I made clear its relevance...
A complete fabrication.

What about:

"As that claim bears no relevance to anything I wrote it is
meaningless."

...did you fail to understand?
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2017-09-07 17:03:26 UTC
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As that claim bears no relevance to anything I wrote it is
meaningless.
Which is why you've now run back
??? WTF in your tiny mind is that intended to mean?
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and avoided replying to the post
where I made clear its relevance...
A complete fabrication.
"As that claim bears no relevance to anything I wrote it is
meaningless."
...did you fail to understand?
What part of the fact that you missed the meaning of what I wrote don't
you understand?
Bigbird
2017-09-08 19:08:03 UTC
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As that claim bears no relevance to anything I wrote it is meaningless.
Which is why you've now run back
??? WTF in your tiny mind is that intended to mean?
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and avoided replying to the post
where I made clear its relevance...
A complete fabrication.
"As that claim bears no relevance to anything I wrote it is
meaningless."
...did you fail to understand?
don't you understand?
I don't understand why you wrote meaningless crap. Claiming it is not
meaningless is another falsehood.

:)
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As that claim bears no relevance to anything I wrote it is
meaningless.
Which is why you've now run back
??? WTF in your tiny mind is that intended to mean?
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and avoided replying to the post
where I made clear its relevance...
A complete fabrication.
"As that claim bears no relevance to anything I wrote it is
meaningless."
...did you fail to understand?
don't you understand?
I don't understand why you wrote meaningless crap. Claiming it is not
meaningless is another falsehood.
I didn't write "meaningless crap". I wrote something which you weren't
bright enough to comprehend without adding additional characters to show
emphasis.

What I wrote was in direct reply to something you'd said and pointed out
that there was support for my earlier claim.

And here you still are...
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2017-09-09 10:06:51 UTC
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I don't understand why you wrote meaningless crap. Claiming it is
not meaningless is another falsehood.
I didn't write "meaningless crap".
Yup, you did. Irrelevant meaningless bullshit.

If you really don't think so then reread the thread...

...most of what you write has no relevance to anything I have said...

...but you know really.

:)
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I don't understand why you wrote meaningless crap. Claiming it is
not meaningless is another falsehood.
I didn't write "meaningless crap".
Yup, you did. Irrelevant meaningless bullshit.
Nope.
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If you really don't think so then reread the thread...
...most of what you write has no relevance to anything I have said...
...but you know really.
Nope.
t***@gmail.com
2017-09-06 23:22:34 UTC
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Stop posting irrelevant shit.
lol
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
sorry has no one herd of the Harrier?
Oh that answer was just too easy...
Wish you'd thought of it, huh?
:)
Nope.
I thought of it and rejected it.
Seriously: aviation has been an interest of mine since I was old enough
to understand what it meant that my grandfather was the second in
command of the RAF when he retired.
I call bull shit on that one - prove it
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Baker_(RAF_officer)
Yup. That's my grandfather. I didn't see that much of him as we only
made one trip to England while he was still alive, and my grandparents
only came over to Canada a couple of times, but I remember that you
could wheedle him into popping off his dentures and jutting his false
teeth out at you.
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
sorry has no one herd of the Harrier?
Oh that answer was just too easy...
Wish you'd thought of it, huh?
:)
Nope.
I thought of it and rejected it.
Seriously: aviation has been an interest of mine since I was old enough
to understand what it meant that my grandfather was the second in
command of the RAF when he retired.
I call bull shit on that one - prove it
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Baker_(RAF_officer)>

Sir John Wakeling Baker

Four children and the youngest was my father.
~misfit~
2017-09-06 05:24:23 UTC
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Can an airplane take off from standstill in less than 20 feet?
Can an airplane land and stop in less than 10 feet?
http://youtu.be/Y7Jwde4EAVw
sorry
has no one herd of the Harrier?
That was my thought on reading the first post (OT posts get read last for
me), harrier and rotor craft..... i.e. define "airplane".
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
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