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m***@yahoo.co.uk
2018-02-27 21:15:31 UTC
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Max Mosley saga - the latest;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5441827/Did-F1-tycoon-Max-Mosley-lie-orgy-trial.html

https://order-order.com/2018/02/27/max-mosley-car-crash-racist-leaflet/

(I don't think Walter Hesketh and Lord Hesketh were related. I simply say this too - Fleet Street didn't do a very good job in 2008 if not finding much Fascist stuff about Max Mosley from the early 1960's - he was openly involved. I seem to remember him saying in a documentary that he abandoned politics for motorsport soon after because motorsport was far less about who you were as a nation or race etc and merely about how good you could race or build a car).
bra
2018-02-27 22:06:54 UTC
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Max Mosley saga - the latest;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5441827/Did-F1-tycoon-Max-Mosley-lie-orgy-trial.html
https://order-order.com/2018/02/27/max-mosley-car-crash-racist-leaflet/
Will they interview Donald Trump about his formal presidential assertions that Mexican immigrants are rapists?

No, they won't. The Eagles' Don Henley sang "Kick 'em when they're down ----"
~misfit~
2018-02-28 00:08:23 UTC
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On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 1:15:34 PM UTC-8,
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Max Mosley saga - the latest;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5441827/Did-F1-tycoon-Max-Mosley-lie-orgy-trial.html
https://order-order.com/2018/02/27/max-mosley-car-crash-racist-leaflet/
Will they interview Donald Trump about his formal presidential
assertions that Mexican immigrants are rapists?
No, they won't. The Eagles' Don Henley sang "Kick 'em when they're down ----"
The song "Dirty Laundry" actually says "kick 'em when they're up" as often
as it says "kick 'em when they're down".
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Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
bra
2018-02-28 16:31:31 UTC
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No, they won't. The Eagles' Don Henley sang "Kick 'em when they're down ----"
The song "Dirty Laundry" actually says "kick 'em when they're up" as often
as it says "kick 'em when they're down".
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Shaun.
Shaun, you are right: I dishonestly ignored the second part ---- I was in a hurry to make a point, and you caught me ;-)
~misfit~
2018-03-01 01:29:38 UTC
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No, they won't. The Eagles' Don Henley sang "Kick 'em when they're down ----"
The song "Dirty Laundry" actually says "kick 'em when they're up" as
often as it says "kick 'em when they're down".
--
Shaun.
Shaun, you are right: I dishonestly ignored the second part ---- I
was in a hurry to make a point, and you caught me ;-)
Heh!

I remember the song well and the moment I read your post it started
'playing' in my head and I noted the up/down ratio was 1:1. ;-)
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
geoff
2018-03-01 01:55:02 UTC
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No, they won't. The Eagles' Don Henley sang "Kick 'em when they're down ----"
The song "Dirty Laundry" actually says "kick 'em when they're up" as
often as it says "kick 'em when they're down".
--
Shaun.
Shaun, you are right: I dishonestly ignored the second part ---- I
was in a hurry to make a point, and you caught me ;-)
Heh!
I remember the song well and the moment I read your post it started
'playing' in my head and I noted the up/down ratio was 1:1. ;-)
Note how they 'politely' never refer to the actual name of Mosely's
party - "The British Union of Fascists" .

Glad Mosely Jr has changed his views. If he hadn't and was still the
boss there would doubtlessly be many more USA GP venues being set up
just now !

geoff

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geoff
2018-03-01 01:58:15 UTC
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No, they won't. The Eagles' Don Henley sang "Kick 'em when they're down ----"
The song "Dirty Laundry" actually says "kick 'em when they're up" as
often as it says "kick 'em when they're down".
--
Shaun.
Shaun, you are right: I dishonestly ignored the second part ---- I
was in a hurry to make a point, and you caught me ;-)
Heh!
I remember the song well and the moment I read your post it started
'playing' in my head and I noted the up/down ratio was 1:1. ;-)
Note how they 'politely' never refer to the actual name of Mosely's
party - "The British Union of Fascists" .
Glad Mosely Jr has changed his views. If he hadn't and was still the
boss there would doubtlessly be many more USA GP venues being set up
just now !
geoff
Oh yeah, 1936 it was renamed to "British Union of Fascists and National
Socialists" in 1936 and, in 1937, to "British Union" when National
Socialists garnered unpopular connotations for some reason or another...

geoff
t***@gmail.com
2018-03-01 02:26:17 UTC
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Oh yeah,
blow me
m***@gmail.com
2018-03-01 03:36:42 UTC
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Note how they 'politely' never refer to the actual name of Mosely's
party - "The British Union of Fascists" .
Glad Mosely Jr has changed his views. If he hadn't and was still the
boss there would doubtlessly be many more USA GP venues being set up
just now !
What a strange thing to say.
m***@gmail.com
2018-03-01 03:46:00 UTC
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No, they won't. The Eagles' Don Henley sang "Kick 'em when they're down ----"
The song "Dirty Laundry" actually says "kick 'em when they're up" as often
as it says "kick 'em when they're down".
--
Shaun.
Shaun, you are right: I dishonestly ignored the second part ---- I was in a hurry to make a point, and you caught me ;-)
The song actually is a good fit here, as it was Henley's rant against a muck raking media.
t***@gmail.com
2018-03-01 04:18:57 UTC
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The song actually is a good fit
Like sheep's vagina?
t***@gmail.com
2018-03-01 03:50:21 UTC
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Shaun, you are right: I dishonestly ignored the second part ---- I was in a hurry to make a point, and you caught me ;-)
Grow a spine cornholer.
He tore you a new one for not
posting F1 related content.
m***@gmail.com
2018-02-28 03:34:59 UTC
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Will they interview Donald Trump about his formal presidential assertions that Mexican immigrants are rapists?
No, they won't. The Eagles' Don Henley sang "Kick 'em when they're down ----"
I don't see Mosley as being particularly down and thus kickable.
Bruce Hoult
2018-02-28 07:47:12 UTC
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Max Mosley saga - the latest;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5441827/Did-F1-tycoon-Max-Mosley-lie-orgy-trial.html
https://order-order.com/2018/02/27/max-mosley-car-crash-racist-leaflet/
Will they interview Donald Trump about his formal presidential assertions that Mexican immigrants are rapists?
No, they won't. The Eagles' Don Henley sang "Kick 'em when they're down ----"
Funny you should mention Don Henley...

Someone claiming to be the surviving underage drugged girl paramedics rescued from his house in 1980 claims to have kept polaroids from the incident, and claims to be about to implicate a bunch of other people.

The lists I've seen include:

Don Henley
Irving Azoff
David Geffen
Stevie Nicks
Lindsay Buckingham
Deborah Jeane Palfrey ("D.C. Madam")
Natalie Wood
Hillary Clinton
Bill Clinton

Or, it could all be bs.
m***@gmail.com
2018-02-28 03:26:01 UTC
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Max Mosley saga - the latest;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5441827/Did-F1-tycoon-Max-Mosley-lie-orgy-trial.html
https://order-order.com/2018/02/27/max-mosley-car-crash-racist-leaflet/
(I don't think Walter Hesketh and Lord Hesketh were related. I simply say this too - Fleet Street didn't do a very good job in 2008 if not finding much Fascist stuff about Max Mosley from the early 1960's - he was openly involved. I seem to remember him saying in a documentary that he abandoned politics for motorsport soon after because motorsport was far less about who you were as a nation or race etc and merely about how good you could race or build a car).
And it's a matter of public record that early on, Max was not only at his father's marches but was involved in a punch up at at least one (he was defending his father).

It's quite reasonable to suggest that a young Mosley acted out of loyalty to his father before, as he got older, finding his own moral compass and moving in a different political direction.

When there was the incident in early 2008 in which people at pre-season testing blacked themselves up and portrayed themselves as the Hamilton family, he acted decisively and with speed to stamp that behaviour out and warn of consequences if there was such behaviour allowed at that circuit in the future. That doesn't strike me as the sort of behaviour you'd expect from a racist.
m***@gmail.com
2018-02-28 04:51:41 UTC
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Max Mosley saga - the latest;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5441827/Did-F1-tycoon-Max-Mosley-lie-orgy-trial.html
https://order-order.com/2018/02/27/max-mosley-car-crash-racist-leaflet/
(I don't think Walter Hesketh and Lord Hesketh were related. I simply say this too - Fleet Street didn't do a very good job in 2008 if not finding much Fascist stuff about Max Mosley from the early 1960's - he was openly involved. I seem to remember him saying in a documentary that he abandoned politics for motorsport soon after because motorsport was far less about who you were as a nation or race etc and merely about how good you could race or build a car).
I was wondering what prompted this. It turns out that Molsley is in court again, seeking an order against The Times, The Mirror, The Mail and The Sun from referring back to the NOTW expose. Mosley's position is that the infamous session was a private party and thus these newspapers are infringing up on his right to privacy.

Not surprisingly, and Mosley would have expected this, the newspapers are striking back.
m***@gmail.com
2018-03-05 10:34:35 UTC
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Max Mosley saga - the latest;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5441827/Did-F1-tycoon-Max-Mosley-lie-orgy-trial.html
https://order-order.com/2018/02/27/max-mosley-car-crash-racist-leaflet/
(I don't think Walter Hesketh and Lord Hesketh were related. I simply say this too - Fleet Street didn't do a very good job in 2008 if not finding much Fascist stuff about Max Mosley from the early 1960's - he was openly involved. I seem to remember him saying in a documentary that he abandoned politics for motorsport soon after because motorsport was far less about who you were as a nation or race etc and merely about how good you could race or build a car).
I was wondering what prompted this. It turns out that Molsley is in court again, seeking an order against The Times, The Mirror, The Mail and The Sun from referring back to the NOTW expose. Mosley's position is that the infamous session was a private party and thus these newspapers are infringing up on his right to privacy.
Not surprisingly, and Mosley would have expected this, the newspapers are striking back.
It also turns out that Mosley is providing financial backing for a press watchdog organisation. He is thus an important combatant in the debate surrounding press freedom and press responsibility. So it very much suits the Mail to have Mosley distracted, fined or, best of all, jailed. It would also suit them to put out stories about his past in the hope that people aligned with Mosley will question whether or not they want to support him or be associated with him.
m***@yahoo.co.uk
2018-02-28 11:32:22 UTC
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the exact date of that Henley incident will be widely known, and so alibi's should be obvious to produce with some of the people you named.

(the incident went to court and only Henley was implicated - so that seems to be that)

regarding all those other people on that list, it all sounds like another "I work as a nurse and know birth certificates can be forged and will soon prove it over barack obama" etc that we heard so much about online from completely anonymous sources, but which never then appeared in the real world as proof.
~misfit~
2018-02-28 12:53:12 UTC
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the exact date of that Henley incident will be widely known, and so
alibi's should be obvious to produce with some of the people you
named.
(the incident went to court and only Henley was implicated - so that seems to be that)
regarding all those other people on that list, it all sounds like
another "I work as a nurse and know birth certificates can be forged
and will soon prove it over barack obama" etc that we heard so much
about online from completely anonymous sources, but which never then
appeared in the real world as proof.
Do you use google groups? I ask because I notice that you don't quote what
you're replying to which can make it hard to follow a conversation. My
understanding is that if you're using GG then you still see posts which
you've read and this can put replies into context more easily.
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Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
t***@gmail.com
2018-02-28 15:11:35 UTC
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Do you use google groups? I ask because I notice that you don't quote what
you're replying to which can make it hard to follow a conversation. My
understanding is that if you're using GG then you still see posts which
you've read and this can put replies into context more easily.
Fuck you, whiny bitch, wannabe moderator, asshole.
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