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Post by Alan BakerPost by BigbirdPost by Alan BakerPost by BigbirdPost by Alan BakerPost by Alan BakerPost by BigbirdPost by Alan BakerPost by BigbirdPost by Alan BakerPost by BigbirdOf course it is. Have you seen how fast they
take Massenet? And the tunnel.
Alan has a poor or selective memory; the debate
was not about Monaco. Alan introduced Monaco
because Alan thinks Monaco only has slow corners.
Bb: At slow speeds aero is ineffective.
AB: Riiiiiiiight. Which is why the cars get
special aero packages for tracks such as Monaco.
Bb: Speeds are upto 295km/h at Monaco. I wouldn't
call 295Km/h slow. Your fuckwittery is complete.
Correct. I have not read "the link above".
Post by Alan Baker'Even at 70 km/h (43 mph), an F1 car can corner 8%
faster with aero than without.'
And "slow" is always a relative term in this
context.
Slow is a relative term in any context.
The fact remains that to think as you did was wrong.
No.
And the only reason it looks that way is that you've
snipped the context of my comments.
That is a lie.
No, it's not.
"At slow speeds aero is ineffective."
Fair enough, I should have said "much less effective".
I'll correct myself; I should have said "relatively
ineffective".
And you would still have been wrong.
8% is HUGE in racing.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You claim below you never said that "8% is HUGE". Just another
alternative Baker fact.
Post by Alan BakerPost by BigbirdTaking the figures from the article regarding Monaco; a track where
you assert they use "special packages" which are better in slow
corners than at most tracks, so not typical by any means.
8% of 43 = 3.4 km/h
70% of 182 km/h
why "70% of 182 km/h" specifically
Actually it should be 70% of 240 = 168 km/h
The other should read 8% of 70 = 5.6 km/h
I appear to have mixed units. Still pretty much the same magnitudes as
you surmised below.
Post by Alan BakerPost by BigbirdDo you have the grace to admit that 3.4 is relatively small
compared to 182.
Yup. It's irrelevant, but yes. 3.4 is even relatively small compared
to 127.4, which is the RESULT of 70% of 182 that you left out.
I got the figures from the article you linked to.
One is for a faster curve on the same track.
It's not very intelligent to claim 8% is huge then claim 70% is
irrelevant; while at the same time admitting that 8% is relatively
small.
Post by Alan BakerPost by BigbirdIf 3.4 is HUGE, what word do you use for 182.
If 8% is HUGE, what is the word for 70%
I never said that 8% is huge, so why do you pretend I did?
It wasn't TwattyMcTwatty that said "8% is HUGE in racing." it was you,
I checked the nym.
Why do you pretend you didn't say that.
Post by Alan BakerThe fact is that if you leave a slow 70kph corner 8% faster, you exit
with 5.6kph more speed and you carry that speed almost all the way
down the following straight.
Irrelevant. This figure is only true for one corner in Monaco when they
have "special aero packages" according to you.
It's only relevance it the relative effectiveness of the aero compared
with corners where speeds are 70% greater... and 168 km/h faster "down
the following straight".
Obviously the 8% is greater with the "special package" than you will
find at nearly every other track.
The 70% is probably somewhat lower than the maximum seen at some tracks.
Now the actual context of my comment was not specific to Monaco as you
falsely and blatantly claim, thus your article which is specific to
Monaco with it's special aero packages is not as relevant as if it were
of a more typical track and aero set up. Additionally my comment was in
respect of marginal gains in aero efficiency in slow corners. So not 8%
or even half that that you might get on a similar corner on other
tracks but a fraction of that amount.
Your whole argument is so out of context it is purely decietful.
All we have learned, or rather confirmed, is that you are petty minded
and deceitful and do not have a grasp of hyperbole.
Now you trolled me... You have been fed... You started out in reference
to a post where I called you a complete fuckwit and all you have
succeeded in doing is proving me correct.
Enough is enough. FUCK YOUR LIES AND GO FUCK YOURSELF.