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NASCAR, Indy Lights, IMSA get F1 superlicense eligibility

Thursday, 21 September 2017
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NASCAR, IMSA and Indy Lights drivers will now be eligible to earn points
towards an F1 superlicense under changes announced following the FIA
World Motor Sport Council meeting in Paris on Thursday.
Also among the changes is a reduction in the number of championships
offering maximum points. Under the revised system, only champions in
IndyCar and Formula 2 will earn the 40 points required for superlicense
qualification; a payout that was previously also extended to European
Formula 3, Formula E, and the WEC's LMP1 class.

F1 superlicense eligibility is earned by amassing 40 superlicense points
over three years. IndyCar will continue to pay 40, 30 and 20 points to
its top three championship finishers – making each year's champion
automatically eligible – while F2's top three drivers ewill earn 40
points, and can also count points earned during the last two seasons of
GP2, Formula 2's predecessor.
Other championships have weathered superlicense point reductions of
varying amounts – the hardest-hit being Formula V8 3.5, which will now
offer 20 points to its champion instead of 35.
D50 2744
However, American-based championships have been the main beneficiaries
of the system's expansion. The Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series and Indy
Lights will each pay points to the top eight in their championships,
with 15 to the winner and then 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2 and 1 down the order –
a scale putting them on a par with the WTCC, DTM and Super GT. Smaller
payouts will be available to NASCAR's Xfinity and Trucks series.
Meanwhile, IMSA's Prototype class will offer points to its top six, with
12 points for the champion, while GTE Pro and Am will offer 10, 8, 6, 4
and 2.
The FIA noted that the championships added to the expanded superlicense
system are subject to all road course events being held at
FIA-homologated venues.
F1 superlicenses are required by any driver wishing to participate in
the Formula 1 world championship.

REVISED F1 SUPERLICENSE SYSTEM
Formula 2: 40, 40, 40, 30, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3
GP2 (2015-16): 40, 40, 30, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2
IndyCar: 40, 30, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
European F3: 30, 25, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
Formula E: 30, 25, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
WEC LMP1: 30, 24, 20, 16, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
GP3: 25, 20, 15, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Formula V8 3.5: 20, 15, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
Super Formula: 20, 15, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
WEC LMP2: 20, 16, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
WTCC: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
DTM: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Super GT: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
NASCAR [Cup]: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Indy Lights: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Supercars: 13, 11, 9, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
IMSA Prototypes: 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
National FIA F4: 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
National F3: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
Formula Renault Eurocup, ALPS, NEC: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
Formula Mazda: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
NASCAR Xfinity, Trucks: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
Asian/ELMS prototype: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
WEC GTE Pro: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
WEC GTE Am: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
IMSA GTLM: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
International GT3 series: 6, 4, 2
Formula Academy (FFSA): 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA world karting championships (senior): 4, 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA continental karting championships (senior): 4, 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA world karting championships (junior): 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA continental karting championships (junior): 3, 2, 1

http://www.racer.com/nascar/item/144386-nascar-indy-lights-imsa-get-f1-superlicence-eligibility
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2017-09-24 02:21:54 UTC
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NASCAR, Indy Lights, IMSA get F1 superlicense eligibility
Thursday, 21 September 2017
Mark Glendenning / Image by Burke, Kinrade/LAT
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NASCAR, IMSA and Indy Lights drivers will now be eligible to earn
points towards an F1 superlicense under changes announced following
the FIA World Motor Sport Council meeting in Paris on Thursday.
Also among the changes is a reduction in the number of championships
offering maximum points. Under the revised system, only champions in
IndyCar and Formula 2 will earn the 40 points required for
superlicense qualification; a payout that was previously also
extended to European Formula 3, Formula E, and the WEC's LMP1 class.
F1 superlicense eligibility is earned by amassing 40 superlicense
points over three years. IndyCar will continue to pay 40, 30 and 20
points to its top three championship finishers - making each year's
champion automatically eligible - while F2's top three drivers ewill
earn 40 points, and can also count points earned during the last two
seasons of GP2, Formula 2's predecessor.
Other championships have weathered superlicense point reductions of
varying amounts - the hardest-hit being Formula V8 3.5, which will now
offer 20 points to its champion instead of 35.
D50 2744
However, American-based championships have been the main beneficiaries
of the system's expansion. The Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series and
Indy Lights will each pay points to the top eight in their
championships, with 15 to the winner and then 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2 and
1 down the order - a scale putting them on a par with the WTCC, DTM
and Super GT. Smaller payouts will be available to NASCAR's Xfinity
and Trucks series. Meanwhile, IMSA's Prototype class will offer
points to its top six, with 12 points for the champion, while GTE Pro
and Am will offer 10, 8, 6, 4 and 2.
The FIA noted that the championships added to the expanded
superlicense system are subject to all road course events being held
at FIA-homologated venues.
F1 superlicenses are required by any driver wishing to participate in
the Formula 1 world championship.
REVISED F1 SUPERLICENSE SYSTEM
Formula 2: 40, 40, 40, 30, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3
GP2 (2015-16): 40, 40, 30, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2
IndyCar: 40, 30, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
European F3: 30, 25, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
Formula E: 30, 25, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
WEC LMP1: 30, 24, 20, 16, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
GP3: 25, 20, 15, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Formula V8 3.5: 20, 15, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
Super Formula: 20, 15, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
WEC LMP2: 20, 16, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
WTCC: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
DTM: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Super GT: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
NASCAR [Cup]: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Indy Lights: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Supercars: 13, 11, 9, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
IMSA Prototypes: 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
National FIA F4: 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
National F3: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
Formula Renault Eurocup, ALPS, NEC: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
Formula Mazda: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
NASCAR Xfinity, Trucks: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
Asian/ELMS prototype: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
WEC GTE Pro: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
WEC GTE Am: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
IMSA GTLM: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
International GT3 series: 6, 4, 2
Formula Academy (FFSA): 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA world karting championships (senior): 4, 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA continental karting championships (senior): 4, 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA world karting championships (junior): 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA continental karting championships (junior): 3, 2, 1
http://www.racer.com/nascar/item/144386-nascar-indy-lights-imsa-get-f1-superlicence-eligibility
So not so much the pinnacle of motorsport under the new ownership. Now
almost anyone with enough money and a few weekends at a redneck race meet
can potentailly get an F1 seat.

I was hoping the new owners wouldn't dilute F1s brand too much.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
Martin Harran
2017-09-24 06:16:29 UTC
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NASCAR, Indy Lights, IMSA get F1 superlicense eligibility
Thursday, 21 September 2017
Mark Glendenning / Image by Burke, Kinrade/LAT
image
NASCAR, IMSA and Indy Lights drivers will now be eligible to earn
points towards an F1 superlicense under changes announced following
the FIA World Motor Sport Council meeting in Paris on Thursday.
Also among the changes is a reduction in the number of championships
offering maximum points. Under the revised system, only champions in
IndyCar and Formula 2 will earn the 40 points required for
superlicense qualification; a payout that was previously also
extended to European Formula 3, Formula E, and the WEC's LMP1 class.
F1 superlicense eligibility is earned by amassing 40 superlicense
points over three years. IndyCar will continue to pay 40, 30 and 20
points to its top three championship finishers - making each year's
champion automatically eligible - while F2's top three drivers ewill
earn 40 points, and can also count points earned during the last two
seasons of GP2, Formula 2's predecessor.
Other championships have weathered superlicense point reductions of
varying amounts - the hardest-hit being Formula V8 3.5, which will now
offer 20 points to its champion instead of 35.
D50 2744
However, American-based championships have been the main beneficiaries
of the system's expansion. The Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series and
Indy Lights will each pay points to the top eight in their
championships, with 15 to the winner and then 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2 and
1 down the order - a scale putting them on a par with the WTCC, DTM
and Super GT. Smaller payouts will be available to NASCAR's Xfinity
and Trucks series. Meanwhile, IMSA's Prototype class will offer
points to its top six, with 12 points for the champion, while GTE Pro
and Am will offer 10, 8, 6, 4 and 2.
The FIA noted that the championships added to the expanded
superlicense system are subject to all road course events being held
at FIA-homologated venues.
F1 superlicenses are required by any driver wishing to participate in
the Formula 1 world championship.
REVISED F1 SUPERLICENSE SYSTEM
Formula 2: 40, 40, 40, 30, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3
GP2 (2015-16): 40, 40, 30, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2
IndyCar: 40, 30, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
European F3: 30, 25, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
Formula E: 30, 25, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
WEC LMP1: 30, 24, 20, 16, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
GP3: 25, 20, 15, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Formula V8 3.5: 20, 15, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
Super Formula: 20, 15, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
WEC LMP2: 20, 16, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
WTCC: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
DTM: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Super GT: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
NASCAR [Cup]: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Indy Lights: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Supercars: 13, 11, 9, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
IMSA Prototypes: 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
National FIA F4: 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
National F3: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
Formula Renault Eurocup, ALPS, NEC: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
Formula Mazda: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
NASCAR Xfinity, Trucks: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
Asian/ELMS prototype: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
WEC GTE Pro: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
WEC GTE Am: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
IMSA GTLM: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
International GT3 series: 6, 4, 2
Formula Academy (FFSA): 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA world karting championships (senior): 4, 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA continental karting championships (senior): 4, 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA world karting championships (junior): 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA continental karting championships (junior): 3, 2, 1
http://www.racer.com/nascar/item/144386-nascar-indy-lights-imsa-get-f1-superlicence-eligibility
So not so much the pinnacle of motorsport under the new ownership. Now
almost anyone with enough money and a few weekends at a redneck race meet
can potentailly get an F1 seat.
Something like winning 2 championships and coming second in a third
one over a 3 year period seems rtaher more than "a few weekends at a
redneck race meet".

BTW, I noticed at last week's F! race, EJ ate humble pie and stated
that he had been wrong to suggest that Lance Stroll wasn't the genuine
article, that he only got his seat because of his daddy's money. Are
you prepared to eat some of the same pie?
Post by ~misfit~
I was hoping the new owners wouldn't dilute F1s brand too much.
~misfit~
2017-09-24 23:44:05 UTC
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Post by a425couple
NASCAR, Indy Lights, IMSA get F1 superlicense eligibility
Thursday, 21 September 2017
Mark Glendenning / Image by Burke, Kinrade/LAT
image
NASCAR, IMSA and Indy Lights drivers will now be eligible to earn
points towards an F1 superlicense under changes announced following
the FIA World Motor Sport Council meeting in Paris on Thursday.
Also among the changes is a reduction in the number of championships
offering maximum points. Under the revised system, only champions in
IndyCar and Formula 2 will earn the 40 points required for
superlicense qualification; a payout that was previously also
extended to European Formula 3, Formula E, and the WEC's LMP1 class.
F1 superlicense eligibility is earned by amassing 40 superlicense
points over three years. IndyCar will continue to pay 40, 30 and 20
points to its top three championship finishers - making each year's
champion automatically eligible - while F2's top three drivers ewill
earn 40 points, and can also count points earned during the last two
seasons of GP2, Formula 2's predecessor.
Other championships have weathered superlicense point reductions of
varying amounts - the hardest-hit being Formula V8 3.5, which will
now offer 20 points to its champion instead of 35.
D50 2744
However, American-based championships have been the main
beneficiaries of the system's expansion. The Monster Energy NASCAR
Cup Series and Indy Lights will each pay points to the top eight in
their championships, with 15 to the winner and then 12, 10, 7, 5,
3, 2 and 1 down the order - a scale putting them on a par with the
WTCC, DTM and Super GT. Smaller payouts will be available to
NASCAR's Xfinity and Trucks series. Meanwhile, IMSA's Prototype
class will offer points to its top six, with 12 points for the
champion, while GTE Pro and Am will offer 10, 8, 6, 4 and 2.
The FIA noted that the championships added to the expanded
superlicense system are subject to all road course events being held
at FIA-homologated venues.
F1 superlicenses are required by any driver wishing to participate
in the Formula 1 world championship.
REVISED F1 SUPERLICENSE SYSTEM
Formula 2: 40, 40, 40, 30, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3
GP2 (2015-16): 40, 40, 30, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2
IndyCar: 40, 30, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
European F3: 30, 25, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
Formula E: 30, 25, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
WEC LMP1: 30, 24, 20, 16, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
GP3: 25, 20, 15, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Formula V8 3.5: 20, 15, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
Super Formula: 20, 15, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
WEC LMP2: 20, 16, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
WTCC: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
DTM: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Super GT: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
NASCAR [Cup]: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Indy Lights: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Supercars: 13, 11, 9, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
IMSA Prototypes: 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
National FIA F4: 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
National F3: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
Formula Renault Eurocup, ALPS, NEC: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
Formula Mazda: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
NASCAR Xfinity, Trucks: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
Asian/ELMS prototype: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
WEC GTE Pro: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
WEC GTE Am: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
IMSA GTLM: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
International GT3 series: 6, 4, 2
Formula Academy (FFSA): 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA world karting championships (senior): 4, 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA continental karting championships (senior): 4, 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA world karting championships (junior): 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA continental karting championships (junior): 3, 2, 1
http://www.racer.com/nascar/item/144386-nascar-indy-lights-imsa-get-f1-superlicence-eligibility
So not so much the pinnacle of motorsport under the new ownership.
Now almost anyone with enough money and a few weekends at a redneck
race meet can potentailly get an F1 seat.
Something like winning 2 championships and coming second in a third
one over a 3 year period seems rtaher more than "a few weekends at a
redneck race meet".
Are you so literal in everyday life? Also that all depends very much on the
level of skill required to win said championships. Trading paint in a
relatively level playing field tin coccon on a banked oval is rather
different to racing open wheelers at 300km/h. Even Indycar is where
unsuccessful F1 drivers go to retire rather than vice-versa (the odd
exception notwithstanding).
Post by Martin Harran
BTW, I noticed at last week's F! race, EJ ate humble pie and stated
that he had been wrong to suggest that Lance Stroll wasn't the genuine
article, that he only got his seat because of his daddy's money. Are
you prepared to eat some of the same pie?
I have stated at least once here lately that he's doing well and perhaps I
was wrong to think he was going to crash and burn (so to speak) in F1. He's
learned quickly enough to deserve his seat now but it was touch-and-go early
season. (It was mentioned by at least one other poster that they were
pleased to see my saying I was hasty in judging him.)

It might behoove you in future to check that you're not late to the party
before trying to take posters to task in future.

Also you do realise that under the above changes to the superlicence system
Stroll coming through now would no longer qualify to race in F1. One wonders
if his early season F1 performance ("Please help me!") precipitated some of
those changes?
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
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Post by ~misfit~
I was hoping the new owners wouldn't dilute F1s brand too much.
bra
2017-09-25 00:23:13 UTC
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Something like winning 2 championships and coming second in a third
one over a 3 year period seems rtaher more than "a few weekends at a
redneck race meet".
Are you so literal in everyday life? Also that all depends very much on the
level of skill required to win said championships. Trading paint in a
relatively level playing field tin coccon on a banked oval is rather
different to racing open wheelers at 300km/h.
You imply by "rather different" that NASCAR races are contested by men of limited driving skill. Hence no doubt, ANY old European F1, F2, F3, GP3 driver who has entered a NASCAR race must necessarily have won it easily. Let's check ---
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2017-09-25 03:08:35 UTC
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Something like winning 2 championships and coming second in a third
one over a 3 year period seems rtaher more than "a few weekends at a
redneck race meet".
Are you so literal in everyday life? Also that all depends very much on the
level of skill required to win said championships. Trading paint in a
relatively level playing field tin coccon on a banked oval is rather
different to racing open wheelers at 300km/h.
You imply by "rather different" that NASCAR races are contested by men of limited driving skill. Hence no doubt, ANY old European F1, F2, F3, GP3 driver who has entered a NASCAR race must necessarily have won it easily. Let's check ---
Somehow, Juan Pablo Montoya comes to mind.
Got plenty of wins in International 3000, CART, Indycar,
and 7 F1 WDC wins, but after over 7 years of full time
NASCAR Cup racing, got only one win.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Pablo_Montoya

But, I suppose, I am missing the point by being literal.
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2017-09-25 11:16:18 UTC
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Something like winning 2 championships and coming second in a third
one over a 3 year period seems rtaher more than "a few weekends at
a redneck race meet".
Are you so literal in everyday life? Also that all depends very much
on the level of skill required to win said championships. Trading
paint in a relatively level playing field tin coccon on a banked
oval is rather different to racing open wheelers at 300km/h.
You imply by "rather different" that NASCAR races are contested by
men of limited driving skill. Hence no doubt, ANY old European F1,
F2, F3, GP3 driver who has entered a NASCAR race must necessarily
have won it easily. Let's check ---
So NASCAR isn't 'rather different' to open wheelers in your opinion? Wow!

I didn't imply anything at all about skill level. You feeling a little
tender? I was simply pointing out that traditionally the road to F1 is other
open wheelers, not >1 tonne tin-tops that do a lot of their racing on ovals.
As you allude to above it's a completely different skill set.

Fuck people are touchy tonight!
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
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I didn't imply anything at all about skill level. You feeling a little
tender? I was simply pointing out that traditionally the road to F1 is other
open wheelers, not >1 tonne tin-tops that do a lot of their racing on ovals.
As you allude to above it's a completely different skill set.
Here's what you actually said :
"So not so much the pinnacle of motorsport under the new ownership. Now
almost anyone with enough money and a few weekends at a redneck race meet
can potentailly get an F1 seat.

"I was hoping the new owners wouldn't dilute F1s brand too much. "

No mention of skill sets, and the little "redneck" dig. Typical well balanced post from you - chips on both shoulders.
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2017-09-25 02:59:51 UTC
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Post by a425couple
NASCAR, Indy Lights, IMSA get F1 superlicense eligibility
Thursday, 21 September 2017
Mark Glendenning / Image by Burke, Kinrade/LAT
image
NASCAR, IMSA and Indy Lights drivers will now be eligible to earn
points towards an F1 superlicense under changes announced following
the FIA World Motor Sport Council meeting in Paris on Thursday.
Also among the changes is a reduction in the number of championships
offering maximum points. Under the revised system, only champions in
IndyCar and Formula 2 will earn the 40 points required for
superlicense qualification; a payout that was previously also
extended to European Formula 3, Formula E, and the WEC's LMP1 class.
F1 superlicense eligibility is earned by amassing 40 superlicense
points over three years. IndyCar will continue to pay 40, 30 and 20
points to its top three championship finishers - making each year's
champion automatically eligible - while F2's top three drivers ewill
earn 40 points, and can also count points earned during the last two
seasons of GP2, Formula 2's predecessor.
Other championships have weathered superlicense point reductions of
varying amounts - the hardest-hit being Formula V8 3.5, which will
now offer 20 points to its champion instead of 35.
D50 2744
However, American-based championships have been the main
beneficiaries of the system's expansion. The Monster Energy NASCAR
Cup Series and Indy Lights will each pay points to the top eight in
their championships, with 15 to the winner and then 12, 10, 7, 5,
3, 2 and 1 down the order - a scale putting them on a par with the
WTCC, DTM and Super GT. Smaller payouts will be available to
NASCAR's Xfinity and Trucks series. Meanwhile, IMSA's Prototype
class will offer points to its top six, with 12 points for the
champion, while GTE Pro and Am will offer 10, 8, 6, 4 and 2.
The FIA noted that the championships added to the expanded
superlicense system are subject to all road course events being held
at FIA-homologated venues.
F1 superlicenses are required by any driver wishing to participate
in the Formula 1 world championship.
REVISED F1 SUPERLICENSE SYSTEM
Formula 2: 40, 40, 40, 30, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3
GP2 (2015-16): 40, 40, 30, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2
IndyCar: 40, 30, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
European F3: 30, 25, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
Formula E: 30, 25, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
WEC LMP1: 30, 24, 20, 16, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
GP3: 25, 20, 15, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Formula V8 3.5: 20, 15, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
Super Formula: 20, 15, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
WEC LMP2: 20, 16, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
WTCC: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
DTM: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Super GT: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
NASCAR [Cup]: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Indy Lights: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Supercars: 13, 11, 9, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
IMSA Prototypes: 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
National FIA F4: 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
National F3: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
Formula Renault Eurocup, ALPS, NEC: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
Formula Mazda: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
NASCAR Xfinity, Trucks: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
Asian/ELMS prototype: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
WEC GTE Pro: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
WEC GTE Am: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
IMSA GTLM: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
International GT3 series: 6, 4, 2
Formula Academy (FFSA): 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA world karting championships (senior): 4, 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA continental karting championships (senior): 4, 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA world karting championships (junior): 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA continental karting championships (junior): 3, 2, 1
http://www.racer.com/nascar/item/144386-nascar-indy-lights-imsa-get-f1-superlicence-eligibility
So not so much the pinnacle of motorsport under the new ownership.
Now almost anyone with enough money and a few weekends at a redneck
race meet can potentailly get an F1 seat.
Something like winning 2 championships and coming second in a third
one over a 3 year period seems rtaher more than "a few weekends at a
redneck race meet".
Are you so literal in everyday life? Also that all depends very much on the
level of skill required to win said championships. Trading paint in a
relatively level playing field tin coccon on a banked oval is rather
different to racing open wheelers at 300km/h. Even Indycar is where
unsuccessful F1 drivers go to retire rather than vice-versa (the odd
exception notwithstanding). ---
It might behoove you in future to check that you're not late to the party
before trying to take posters to task in future.
Dear Martin, if you feel frustrated in trying to
use facts and logic, and real ideas to deal with
poor depressed 'misfit', you are not alone.
He will twist and distort, and blow smoke and falsehoods,
but never admit error.

There are a fair number of things, that just are not worth
the time or energy.
~misfit~
2017-09-25 11:12:19 UTC
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On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 15:21:54 +1300, "~misfit~"
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NASCAR, Indy Lights, IMSA get F1 superlicense eligibility
Thursday, 21 September 2017
Mark Glendenning / Image by Burke, Kinrade/LAT
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NASCAR, IMSA and Indy Lights drivers will now be eligible to earn
points towards an F1 superlicense under changes announced
following the FIA World Motor Sport Council meeting in Paris on
Thursday. Also among the changes is a reduction in the number of
championships offering maximum points. Under the revised system,
only champions in IndyCar and Formula 2 will earn the 40 points
required for superlicense qualification; a payout that was
previously also extended to European Formula 3, Formula E, and
the WEC's LMP1 class. F1 superlicense eligibility is earned by
amassing 40 superlicense
points over three years. IndyCar will continue to pay 40, 30 and
20 points to its top three championship finishers - making each
year's champion automatically eligible - while F2's top three
drivers ewill earn 40 points, and can also count points earned
during the last two seasons of GP2, Formula 2's predecessor.
Other championships have weathered superlicense point reductions
of varying amounts - the hardest-hit being Formula V8 3.5, which
will now offer 20 points to its champion instead of 35.
D50 2744
However, American-based championships have been the main
beneficiaries of the system's expansion. The Monster Energy NASCAR
Cup Series and Indy Lights will each pay points to the top eight
in their championships, with 15 to the winner and then 12, 10, 7,
5, 3, 2 and 1 down the order - a scale putting them on a par with
the WTCC, DTM and Super GT. Smaller payouts will be available to
NASCAR's Xfinity and Trucks series. Meanwhile, IMSA's Prototype
class will offer points to its top six, with 12 points for the
champion, while GTE Pro and Am will offer 10, 8, 6, 4 and 2.
The FIA noted that the championships added to the expanded
superlicense system are subject to all road course events being
held at FIA-homologated venues.
F1 superlicenses are required by any driver wishing to participate
in the Formula 1 world championship.
REVISED F1 SUPERLICENSE SYSTEM
Formula 2: 40, 40, 40, 30, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3
GP2 (2015-16): 40, 40, 30, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2
IndyCar: 40, 30, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
European F3: 30, 25, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
Formula E: 30, 25, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
WEC LMP1: 30, 24, 20, 16, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
GP3: 25, 20, 15, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Formula V8 3.5: 20, 15, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
Super Formula: 20, 15, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
WEC LMP2: 20, 16, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
WTCC: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
DTM: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Super GT: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
NASCAR [Cup]: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Indy Lights: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
Supercars: 13, 11, 9, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
IMSA Prototypes: 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
National FIA F4: 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
National F3: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
Formula Renault Eurocup, ALPS, NEC: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
Formula Mazda: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
NASCAR Xfinity, Trucks: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
Asian/ELMS prototype: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
WEC GTE Pro: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
WEC GTE Am: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
IMSA GTLM: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
International GT3 series: 6, 4, 2
Formula Academy (FFSA): 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA world karting championships (senior): 4, 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA continental karting championships (senior): 4, 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA world karting championships (junior): 3, 2, 1
CIK-FIA continental karting championships (junior): 3, 2, 1
http://www.racer.com/nascar/item/144386-nascar-indy-lights-imsa-get-f1-superlicence-eligibility
So not so much the pinnacle of motorsport under the new ownership.
Now almost anyone with enough money and a few weekends at a redneck
race meet can potentailly get an F1 seat.
Something like winning 2 championships and coming second in a third
one over a 3 year period seems rtaher more than "a few weekends at
a redneck race meet".
Are you so literal in everyday life? Also that all depends very much
on the level of skill required to win said championships. Trading
paint in a relatively level playing field tin coccon on a banked
oval is rather different to racing open wheelers at 300km/h. Even
Indycar is where unsuccessful F1 drivers go to retire rather than
vice-versa (the odd exception notwithstanding). ---
It might behoove you in future to check that you're not late to the
party before trying to take posters to task in future.
Dear Martin, if you feel frustrated in trying to
use facts and logic, and real ideas to deal with
poor depressed 'misfit', you are not alone.
He will twist and distort, and blow smoke and falsehoods,
but never admit error.
You're projecting couple - but nice to know how you actually feel.
Post by a425couple
There are a fair number of things, that just are not worth
the time or energy.
Indeed. Like reading all of your OT posts.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
t***@gmail.com
2017-09-25 05:31:58 UTC
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When you say 'we',
do you mean old homosexuals, sitting in a soiled diaper?
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2017-09-25 06:20:51 UTC
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So not so much the pinnacle of motorsport under the new ownership. Now
almost anyone with enough money and a few weekends at a redneck race meet
can potentailly get an F1 seat.
I was hoping the new owners wouldn't dilute F1s brand too much.
FIA control the super license. The CRH may bend FIA's ear, but they don't get to make the regulations. EG The introduction of the current power units which the CRH at the time strongly opposed.

Why you think Nascar is a "redneck" series is beyond me. It seems to me that on some social measures they are ahead of F1 - as is Indycar. Both series have been more open to woman drivers. And when Alonso wanted to race at Indy you didn't get the sanctioning body, the pundits and the team owners going on about he was some outside buying a drive - they welcomed him and treated him with great courtesy. A nice contrast to the often stuffy attitudes of F1.

To get a super license via any combination of the qualifying series, you have to accrue 40 points over 3 years. That would mean 2 championships and a top 3 place in NASCAR. Or one good year in GP2. Which do you think is the tougher challenge?
Post by ~misfit~
--
Shaun.
"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
b***@topmail.co.nz
2017-09-25 06:33:25 UTC
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15 points for NASCAR but only 13 points for V8 Supercars?
They don't have to dodge kangaroos in NASCAR.
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