Once upon a time on usenet M2T wrote:
> On 20/03/2018 03:32, ~misfit~ wrote:
>> Once upon a time on usenet M2T wrote:
>>> On 19/03/2018 23:57, ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>> Once upon a time on usenet M2T wrote:
>>>>> That didn't take long
>>>>> F1 2018: Nico Rosberg explains how to beat Lewis Hamilton
>>>> I actually admire Rosberg. He entered a disipline which he didn't
>>>> love and wasn't really great at and became the world champion - by
>>>> application of wit and will alone. He started something and saw it
>>>> through as far as it would go.
>>>> I always said that I thought he wasn't a 'natural' or true racer[*]
>>>> and he proved me right by retiring as soon as he achieved his
>>>> chilhood goal. That took a mega-tonne of grit and determination and
>>>> was a feat that is unmatched anywhere else, by anyone else
>>> Rosberg had many opportunies to stop racing, but we know now, all
>>> the other options he claimed to have had, never existed.
>> You must know something that I don't because I don't understand that.
> Nico Rosberg, the cleverest driver to race in F1. IQ greater than
> Einstein. Offered the opportunity to go to Uni and become the world's
> greatest engineer. How do we know that? 'Cos he told everyone.
> Instead he opened an ice cream parlour in Spain. For a week or so.
Oh OK. I generally don't bother with that sort of 'news'.
>>> So he's returned
>>> or never left, to commentate and be Kubica's manager.
>> It's the only life he's ever known, he grew up in and around the F1
>> world. Maybe he has more talent at managing than he has driving? He
>> certainly won't be under anywhere near the same pressure he was when
>> he was driving so migth enjoy himself more.
>>> Another son of a WDC took up racing, didn't like it and retired. That
>>> really took courage.
>> To drop out? By that metric there are millions of courageous people
>> in the world. What I find impressive is to stick with something that
>> you not only don't like much but also aren't a natural at - and
>> become world champion. I certainly don't have that level of
>>>> [*] True racers will race every chance they get. Back in the day,
>>>> before teams stopped the pactice GP drivers would race most every
>>>> weekend, sometimes every day of each weekend. They'd find a seat
>>>> somewhere whether it was at Le Mans, CANAM or just racing a Cortina
>>>> or Hillman Imp around a backwater track. Nando is a true racer,
>>>> he's not been getting the satisfaction he craves from F1 so has
>>>> had his contract re-written to allow him to race elsewhere between
>>>> Grands Prix. Kimi is a true racer, he came out of 'retirement'
>>>> back to F1 (and in the meantime raced everything he could
>>>> including boats). Almost everyone starting in this weekends GP is a
>>>> true racer
>>>> (perhaps with the exception of Stroll, another person chasing a
>>>> childhood / inherited dream). Rosberg wasn't and isn't a true
>>>> racer. A true racer wouldn't have given up a seat in the dominant
>>>> team in F1 to retire so young. Sure he's a family man but so are
>>>> others on the grid, most of whom wouldn't miss a race to be there
>>>> for their partner at the birth of their child. What Rosberg *is*
>>>> is the most determined man I know of. I wish I had
>>>> a half of his drive. I didn't admire him as a racer but I admire
>>>> him as a man. (He should just keep away from F1 altogether now IMO
>>>> simply because he *isn't* a racer [and he's a smug bastard], though
>>>> I know how hard it can be to break a longtime habit that took over
>>>> your life.)
>>> Not only smug, but a fucking whiner.
>> I don't disagree. (It's possible to admire somebody but not like
>> them. Personally I think Sky made a mistake hiring Rosberg as a
>> commentator and that they haven't read their target audience very
>> well. I guess being a WDC is enough to get you work...)
>>> He spent half of his last race
>>> crying on the radio to his team, begging them to get Lewis Hamilton
>>> to move over and let him pass.
>> Hamilton couldn't hear that in real time though and if it had worked
>> it would have helped Rosberg towards his target a lot. Actually it's
>> not bad on the mind games front - when Hamilton heard it after the
>> race it would reinforce any insecurity over Rosbergs entitlement.
>> Maybe... LOL.
> Rosberg's whining was repeated by Tonto and Lowe over the radio to
> Lewis. Please let him pass, he promises to give the place back on the
> last lap.
Oh you mean *that* whining incident. (there were quite a few of them..)
>>> That's one big fat Zero in the mind games
>>> he continues to claim he's brilliant at.
>> He's not brilliant at 'mind games' but he did use psychology to
>> augment his driving - IMO he wouldn't have beaten Hamilton without
>> the 'mind games'. When you don't have the talent of the person
>> you're trying to beat you have to use everything at your disposal
>> (if you're that type of person..).
> He wouldn't have beaten Hamilton without the engine failure that LH
> suffered when he was leading a race. The engine was brand new.
Shit happens - I don't think Mercedes deliberately scuppered Hamilton (other
than the musical chairs mechanics thing - knowing that Hamilton values
interpersonal relationships and works best when he knows the people he's
working with well).
"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)