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Formula 1 may be close to adding three races to its 2019 schedule.,,German media outlet Auto Motor und Sport reports that Liberty Media is working on deals with Vietnam, Miami and Argentina
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2018-03-02 22:52:57 UTC
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Going downtown in Hanoi (watch for SAMs and AAA) and Miami (snort), and
the old Buenos Aires autodromo.

http://autoweek.com/article/formula-one/report-f1-close-2019-race-deals-vietnam-miami-argentina
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2018-03-02 23:23:50 UTC
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2018-03-03 03:14:19 UTC
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Going downtown in Hanoi (watch for SAMs and AAA) and Miami (snort), and
the old Buenos Aires autodromo.
http://autoweek.com/article/formula-one/report-f1-close-2019-race-deals-vietnam-miami-argentina
It turns out that the story about a race in Miami has been running for some months. Inspections have been made of proposed layouts and this advert ran in the Miami Herald in October
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2018-03-03 05:57:13 UTC
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Going downtown in Hanoi (watch for SAMs and AAA) and Miami (snort), and
the old Buenos Aires autodromo.
http://autoweek.com/article/formula-one/report-f1-close-2019-race-deals-vietnam-miami-argentina
It turns out that the story about a race in Miami has been running for some months. Inspections have been made of proposed layouts and this advert ran in the Miami Herald in October
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DM69uQwVwAAjozC.jpg:large
I checked several F1 sites - Motorsport.com, Autosport, Saward, Allen, ESPN, Motorsportweek, Pitpass - and none of them carried news of the visit to Miami by a Liberty team and the site inspections. There were mentions of talk of a race in Miami.

Are they sleeping on the job, not bothered with what happens in that place across the pond, or are such visits so common that there's no news value?
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2018-03-03 06:30:22 UTC
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Going downtown in Hanoi (watch for SAMs and AAA) and Miami (snort), and
the old Buenos Aires autodromo.
http://autoweek.com/article/formula-one/report-f1-close-2019-race-deals-vietnam-miami-argentina
It turns out that the story about a race in Miami has been running for some months. Inspections have been made of proposed layouts and this advert ran in the Miami Herald in October
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DM69uQwVwAAjozC.jpg:large
I checked several F1 sites - Motorsport.com, Autosport, Saward, Allen, ESPN, Motorsportweek, Pitpass - and none of them carried news of the visit to Miami by a Liberty team and the site inspections. There were mentions of talk of a race in Miami.
Are they sleeping on the job, not bothered with what happens in that place across the pond, or are such visits so common that there's no news value?
Joe Saward has covered Miami on several occasions incl the meeting.

beers,
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2018-03-03 07:00:36 UTC
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Going downtown in Hanoi (watch for SAMs and AAA) and Miami (snort), and
the old Buenos Aires autodromo.
http://autoweek.com/article/formula-one/report-f1-close-2019-race-deals-vietnam-miami-argentina
It turns out that the story about a race in Miami has been running for some months. Inspections have been made of proposed layouts and this advert ran in the Miami Herald in October
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DM69uQwVwAAjozC.jpg:large
I checked several F1 sites - Motorsport.com, Autosport, Saward, Allen, ESPN, Motorsportweek, Pitpass - and none of them carried news of the visit to Miami by a Liberty team and the site inspections. There were mentions of talk of a race in Miami.
Are they sleeping on the job, not bothered with what happens in that place across the pond, or are such visits so common that there's no news value?
Joe Saward has covered Miami on several occasions incl the meeting.
beers,
You and I seem to read two very different Sawards - or maybe you subscribe to his paid for newsletter.

I did search the new site and the previous one, using the search facilities provided, and I found nothing about a visit to Miami, just references to talk about Miami. EG this from June: "Miami is a nice idea but there are no rumours at all"
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2018-03-04 03:47:57 UTC
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Going downtown in Hanoi (watch for SAMs and AAA) and Miami (snort), and
the old Buenos Aires autodromo.
Bring back the Cuban Grand Prix.
They can have mock kidnappings on Friday practice to entertain the old
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2018-03-04 04:06:15 UTC
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Going downtown in Hanoi (watch for SAMs and AAA) and Miami (snort), and
the old Buenos Aires autodromo.
Bring back the Cuban Grand Prix.
They can have mock kidnappings on Friday practice to entertain the old
commies.
What's new? They have those in Brazil.
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2018-03-04 05:35:46 UTC
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Going downtown in Hanoi (watch for SAMs and AAA) and Miami (snort),
and the old Buenos Aires autodromo.
Bring back the Cuban Grand Prix.
They can have mock kidnappings on Friday practice to entertain the
old commies.
What's new? They have those in Brazil.
Except they're not 'mock'.
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2018-03-04 04:37:21 UTC
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What's the limit on the number of races in a season?

I'm not sure I can see all three for 2019.

Two of the races mentioned would be street races. What sort of time does such a race take? What was the time taken from discussions with Baku to the actual race? Anybody know? That might give us an idea of how feasible these races are for 2019.

Miami's stated position is (or was in November) that they would very much like to have the race, but the City isn't going to pay for it. So there are funding questions as well.
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2018-03-04 04:56:54 UTC
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What's the limit on the number of races in a season?
I'm not sure I can see all three for 2019.
Two of the races mentioned would be street races. What sort of time does such a race take? What was the time taken from discussions with Baku to the actual race? Anybody know? That might give us an idea of how feasible these races are for 2019.
OK... Baku was announced in 2014, and was supposed to happen in 2015, but was delayed until 2016 because of calendar constraints. When it was announced, the track layout was not finalised.

So maybe 2019 could be done for the street races, if all the other boxes get ticked and there are slots available in the calendar.
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2018-03-04 05:24:15 UTC
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What's the limit on the number of races in a season?
No limits!

When David Coulthard was racing, someone asked him "what's your next GP?" and he said he hadn't a f---ing clue 'cos there were so many.

"So many"? There were 'only' sixteen grands prix that year.

In 1966, Jack Brabham got his third world title by competing in all nine GPs.
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2018-03-04 06:48:10 UTC
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What's the limit on the number of races in a season?
No limits!
There is. It used to be 20, and then over that number in a season required agreement from all teams and the tyre supplier.
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When David Coulthard was racing, someone asked him "what's your next GP?" and he said he hadn't a f---ing clue 'cos there were so many.
"So many"? There were 'only' sixteen grands prix that year.
Meh. There were 15 in 1973. What's he complaining about?
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2018-03-05 10:19:38 UTC
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What's the limit on the number of races in a season?
No limits!
There is. It used to be 20, and then over that number in a season required agreement from all teams and the tyre supplier.
The current limit is 25. Liberty can take the calendar to 25 races without having to bargain with the teams.
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2018-03-05 17:52:14 UTC
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There is. It used to be 20, and then over that number in a season required agreement from all teams and the tyre supplier.
The current limit is 25. Liberty can take the calendar to 25 races without having to bargain with the teams.
So, 20-to-25 races are required to determine 'who is the best driver' in any year?
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2018-03-05 18:26:57 UTC
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There is. It used to be 20, and then over that number in a season
required agreement from all teams and the tyre supplier.
The current limit is 25. Liberty can take the calendar to 25 races
without having to bargain with the teams.
So, 20-to-25 races are required to determine 'who is the best driver' in any year?
Under the current sporting regulations the championships are awarded as
long as there are at least 8 events.
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2018-03-05 19:29:39 UTC
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There is. It used to be 20, and then over that number in a season
required agreement from all teams and the tyre supplier.
The current limit is 25. Liberty can take the calendar to 25 races
without having to bargain with the teams.
So, 20-to-25 races are required to determine 'who is the best driver' in any year?
Under the current sporting regulations the championships are awarded as
long as there are at least 8 events.
--
Mark Jackson - http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
How many foxes does it take before a henhouse
becomes a foxhouse? - Charles P. Pierce
Come back, Jim Clark, who showed us twice, in the course of just ten races that he was a champion.
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2018-03-06 04:50:26 UTC
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There is. It used to be 20, and then over that number in a season
required agreement from all teams and the tyre supplier.
The current limit is 25. Liberty can take the calendar to 25 races
without having to bargain with the teams.
So, 20-to-25 races are required to determine 'who is the best driver' in any year?
Under the current sporting regulations the championships are awarded as
long as there are at least 8 events.
--
Mark Jackson - http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
How many foxes does it take before a henhouse
becomes a foxhouse? - Charles P. Pierce
Come back, Jim Clark, who showed us twice, in the course of just ten races that he was a champion.
Meh. The number of races each season is what it is and the drivers have to fight the championship over that number of races. Clark would probably have done the job now (in a debugged Lotus that was the fastest car in the field) and Hamilton would probably have done the job then.

Saying that it took Hamilton HOW MANY races to show that he was a champion is as false as saying that well, Clark, you know, only raced ten times instead of taking his chances over a season of a proper length. Both men did the job as it had to be done in their time.
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2018-03-06 12:36:07 UTC
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There is. It used to be 20, and then over that number in a season
required agreement from all teams and the tyre supplier.
The current limit is 25. Liberty can take the calendar to 25 races
without having to bargain with the teams.
So, 20-to-25 races are required to determine 'who is the best driver' in any year?
Under the current sporting regulations the championships are awarded as
long as there are at least 8 events.
--
Mark Jackson - http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
How many foxes does it take before a henhouse
becomes a foxhouse? - Charles P. Pierce
Come back, Jim Clark, who showed us twice, in the course of just ten races that he was a champion.
And, in 1963, another ten non-championship races. Of which he won five.
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2018-03-06 15:56:38 UTC
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And, in 1963, another ten non-championship races. Of which he won five.
We also had the fun of watching F1 drivers handle saloons on minor circuits. Clark hunting a Galaxie and a Mustang at Snetterton in 1966:
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And, in 1963, another ten non-championship races. Of which he won five.
We also had the fun of watching F1 drivers handle saloons on minor
circuits. Clark hunting a Galaxie and a Mustang at Snetterton in
1966: http://www.oldstox.com/images/clark%20snet%2066.jpg
And then there was Ford Cortinas, and this:


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So, 20-to-25 races are required to determine 'who is the best driver' in any year?
You stunned cunt.
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There is. It used to be 20, and then over that number in a season
required agreement from all teams and the tyre supplier.
The current limit is 25. Liberty can take the calendar to 25 races
without having to bargain with the teams.
So, 20-to-25 races are required to determine 'who is the best driver' in any year?
No. 20-to-25 races are required for Liberty Media to milk as much as they
can out of Formula 1. It's entertainment, not sport.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
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There is. It used to be 20, and then over that number in a season
required agreement from all teams and the tyre supplier.
The current limit is 25. Liberty can take the calendar to 25 races
without having to bargain with the teams.
So, 20-to-25 races are required to determine 'who is the best driver' in any year?
No. 20-to-25 races are required for Liberty Media to milk as much as they
can out of Formula 1. It's entertainment, not sport.
--
Shaun.
Those who can "do", those who can't criticise.
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2018-03-06 11:10:10 UTC
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There is. It used to be 20, and then over that number in a
season >>> required agreement from all teams and the tyre supplier.
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The current limit is 25. Liberty can take the calendar to 25
races >> without having to bargain with the teams.
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So, 20-to-25 races are required to determine 'who is the best driver' in any year?
No. 20-to-25 races are required for Liberty Media to milk as much
as they can out of Formula 1. It's entertainment, not sport.
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Shaun.
Those who can "do", those who can't criticise.
That's a somewhat random criticism... what are you having trouble with?
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There is. It used to be 20, and then over that number in a
season >>> required agreement from all teams and the tyre supplier.
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The current limit is 25. Liberty can take the calendar to 25
races >> without having to bargain with the teams.
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So, 20-to-25 races are required to determine 'who is the best driver' in any year?
No. 20-to-25 races are required for Liberty Media to milk as much
as they can out of Formula 1. It's entertainment, not sport.
--
Shaun.
Those who can "do", those who can't criticise.
That's a somewhat random criticism... what are you having trouble with?
Me not replying to his emails about tin-top racing, something I have little
interest in (even when a New Zealander is winning).

I laughed when Sky's Slater said to Wolff during T2D1 "So it looks like this
year is shaping up to be the best yet - do you agree?" and Wolff, trying to
side-step the issue said "I understand why you say that - you're selling a
product... We're all selling a product, that's what we're here for".
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Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
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2018-03-04 07:56:43 UTC
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What's the limit on the number of races in a season?
I'm not sure I can see all three for 2019.
Two of the races mentioned would be street races. What sort of time does such a race take? What was the time taken from discussions with Baku to the actual race? Anybody know? That might give us an idea of how feasible these races are for 2019.
Miami's stated position is (or was in November) that they would very much like to have the race, but the City isn't going to pay for it. So there are funding questions as well.
I'm sure funding is sorted. It will make an awful mess of the
golf-course, but the government will chip in to put it right again.

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