geoff
2016-12-07 19:09:04 UTC
Well he'd give Max V a run for his money in the driving-style stakes, I
would imagine.
geoff
would imagine.
geoff
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Bruce Hoult
2016-12-07 19:29:01 UTC
The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to the ex-F1 guys.
Bruce Hoult
2016-12-07 19:37:51 UTC
Post by Bruce Hoult
The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to the ex-F1 guys.
Yup. Jorge Lorenzo.The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to the ex-F1 guys.
Not the pits. Nearby. They talked about him slowing the pace and trying to get others in front of his rival in his own championship.
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Bigbird
2016-12-07 19:55:09 UTC
Post by Bruce Hoult
Not the pits. Nearby. They talked about him slowing the pace and
trying to get others in front of his rival in his own championship.
http://hoult.org/bruce/lorenzo.jpg
Those "ex-F1 guys" are both approx 6ft. Jorge is the same height asPost by Bruce Hoult
The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider
in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to
the ex-F1 guys.
Yup. Jorge Lorenzo.The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider
in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to
the ex-F1 guys.
Not the pits. Nearby. They talked about him slowing the pace and
trying to get others in front of his rival in his own championship.
http://hoult.org/bruce/lorenzo.jpg
Alonso.
Bruce Hoult
2016-12-07 20:45:26 UTC
Post by Bigbird
Alonso.
You don't consider that short? Have you seen young people these days?Post by Bruce Hoult
Not the pits. Nearby. They talked about him slowing the pace and
trying to get others in front of his rival in his own championship.
http://hoult.org/bruce/lorenzo.jpg
Those "ex-F1 guys" are both approx 6ft. Jorge is the same height asPost by Bruce Hoult
The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider
in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to
the ex-F1 guys.
Yup. Jorge Lorenzo.The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider
in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to
the ex-F1 guys.
Not the pits. Nearby. They talked about him slowing the pace and
trying to get others in front of his rival in his own championship.
http://hoult.org/bruce/lorenzo.jpg
Alonso.
I'm 182 cm, about the same as those two (and Button) and it's a looong time since I had a (15-20 years younger, I'm 54 now) gf who wasn't around 180. Five in a row since 2005 anyway. The women about my own age I dated in the 90s and early 00's were usually around 165 (5'5"). It's not me getting biased, it's just how they are now!
Bigbird
2016-12-07 23:27:32 UTC
Post by Bruce Hoult
No, I am 6ft and while there are plenty taller there are also plentyPost by Bigbird
Alonso.
You don't consider that short?Post by Bruce Hoult
Not the pits. Nearby. They talked about him slowing the pace and
trying to get others in front of his rival in his own
championship.
http://hoult.org/bruce/lorenzo.jpg
Those "ex-F1 guys" are both approx 6ft. Jorge is the same height asPost by Bruce Hoult
The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP
rider in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even
compared to the ex-F1 guys.
Yup. Jorge Lorenzo.The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP
rider in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even
compared to the ex-F1 guys.
Not the pits. Nearby. They talked about him slowing the pace and
trying to get others in front of his rival in his own
championship.
http://hoult.org/bruce/lorenzo.jpg
Alonso.
shorter.
Post by Bruce Hoult
Have you seen young people these days?
I'm 182 cm, about the same as those two (and Button) and it's a
looong time since I had a (15-20 years younger, I'm 54 now) gf who
wasn't around 180. Five in a row since 2005 anyway. The women about
my own age I dated in the 90s and early 00's were usually around 165
(5'5"). It's not me getting biased, it's just how they are now!
Have you seen young people these days?
I'm 182 cm, about the same as those two (and Button) and it's a
looong time since I had a (15-20 years younger, I'm 54 now) gf who
wasn't around 180. Five in a row since 2005 anyway. The women about
my own age I dated in the 90s and early 00's were usually around 165
(5'5"). It's not me getting biased, it's just how they are now!
~misfit~
2016-12-08 04:01:43 UTC
Post by Bruce Hoult
I'm 182 cm, about the same as those two (and Button) and it's a
looong time since I had a (15-20 years younger, I'm 54 now) gf who
wasn't around 180. Five in a row since 2005 anyway.
Slut! ;)Post by Bigbird
Alonso.
You don't consider that short? Have you seen young people these days?Post by Bruce Hoult
Not the pits. Nearby. They talked about him slowing the pace and
trying to get others in front of his rival in his own championship.
http://hoult.org/bruce/lorenzo.jpg
Those "ex-F1 guys" are both approx 6ft. Jorge is the same height asPost by Bruce Hoult
The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider
in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to
the ex-F1 guys.
Yup. Jorge Lorenzo.The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider
in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to
the ex-F1 guys.
Not the pits. Nearby. They talked about him slowing the pace and
trying to get others in front of his rival in his own championship.
http://hoult.org/bruce/lorenzo.jpg
Alonso.
I'm 182 cm, about the same as those two (and Button) and it's a
looong time since I had a (15-20 years younger, I'm 54 now) gf who
wasn't around 180. Five in a row since 2005 anyway.
You remind me of myself before I decided that the complications of the
female psych wren't worth messing with until I found 'the one'. My decision
was biased by the fact that I'm very empathic and 'sensitive'. Also I'm very
logical, which doesn't help one iota w/r/t relationships - in fact it's a
hinderance. <g>
Post by Bruce Hoult
The women about
my own age I dated in the 90s and early 00's were usually around 165
(5'5"). It's not me getting biased, it's just how they are now!
I've been reading some interesting artciles about medical research intoThe women about
my own age I dated in the 90s and early 00's were usually around 165
(5'5"). It's not me getting biased, it's just how they are now!
airborne pathogens (including common ones) and how the taller a person is
(the higher their air intake is above the ground) the less likely they are
to contract such a disease. Even a couple of centimetres makes a big
difference. So evolution has lead to taller people [*]. Sadly it also means
more back issues as the spine didn't evolve to be mainly in a vertical
posture.
[*] Interesting the Dutch are the tallest people and also one of the
healthiest and long-lived - at least last time I looked at the stats which
was a few years ago now.
--
Shaun.
"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
Shaun.
"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
~misfit~
2016-12-09 02:33:44 UTC
Post by ~misfit~
You remind me of myself before I decided that the complications of the
female psych wren't worth messing with until I found 'the one'. My
decision was biased by the fact that I'm very empathic and
'sensitive'. Also I'm very logical, which doesn't help one iota w/r/t
relationships - in fact it's a hinderance. <g>
into airborne pathogens (including common ones) and how the taller a
person is (the higher their air intake is above the ground) the less
likely they are to contract such a disease. Even a couple of
centimetres makes a big difference. So evolution has lead to taller
people [*]. Sadly it also means more back issues as the spine didn't
evolve to be mainly in a vertical posture.
[*] Interesting the Dutch are the tallest people and also one of the
healthiest and long-lived - at least last time I looked at the stats
which was a few years ago now.
Also this is something that Asians (who are genetically predisposed to beingPost by Bruce Hoult
I'm 182 cm, about the same as those two (and Button) and it's a
looong time since I had a (15-20 years younger, I'm 54 now) gf who
wasn't around 180. Five in a row since 2005 anyway.
Slut! ;)Post by Bigbird
Alonso.
You don't consider that short? Have you seen young people these days?Post by Bruce Hoult
Not the pits. Nearby. They talked about him slowing the pace and
trying to get others in front of his rival in his own championship.
http://hoult.org/bruce/lorenzo.jpg
Those "ex-F1 guys" are both approx 6ft. Jorge is the same height asPost by Bruce Hoult
The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider
in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to
the ex-F1 guys.
Yup. Jorge Lorenzo.The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider
in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to
the ex-F1 guys.
Not the pits. Nearby. They talked about him slowing the pace and
trying to get others in front of his rival in his own championship.
http://hoult.org/bruce/lorenzo.jpg
Alonso.
I'm 182 cm, about the same as those two (and Button) and it's a
looong time since I had a (15-20 years younger, I'm 54 now) gf who
wasn't around 180. Five in a row since 2005 anyway.
You remind me of myself before I decided that the complications of the
female psych wren't worth messing with until I found 'the one'. My
decision was biased by the fact that I'm very empathic and
'sensitive'. Also I'm very logical, which doesn't help one iota w/r/t
relationships - in fact it's a hinderance. <g>
Post by Bruce Hoult
The women about
my own age I dated in the 90s and early 00's were usually around 165
(5'5"). It's not me getting biased, it's just how they are now!
I've been reading some interesting artciles about medical researchThe women about
my own age I dated in the 90s and early 00's were usually around 165
(5'5"). It's not me getting biased, it's just how they are now!
into airborne pathogens (including common ones) and how the taller a
person is (the higher their air intake is above the ground) the less
likely they are to contract such a disease. Even a couple of
centimetres makes a big difference. So evolution has lead to taller
people [*]. Sadly it also means more back issues as the spine didn't
evolve to be mainly in a vertical posture.
[*] Interesting the Dutch are the tallest people and also one of the
healthiest and long-lived - at least last time I looked at the stats
which was a few years ago now.
short) have known for a while - hence the widespread use of facemasks in
public. A snorkel would look *really* silly. ;-)
--
Shaun.
"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
Shaun.
"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
brafield
2016-12-07 23:56:06 UTC
Post by Bruce Hoult
The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to the ex-F1 guys.
Now if you want "short" you must have the late great Bill Ivy. A speed demon standing 5ft 3in. Insane on a bike, and had some good tries [but not the money] in Formula 2. Bill was also more ready to use his fists than to engage in lengthy debates :-)The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to the ex-F1 guys.
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brafield
2016-12-08 01:16:47 UTC
Post by brafield
Now if you want "short" you must have the late great Bill Ivy. A speed demon standing 5ft 3in. Insane on a bike, and had some good tries [but not the money] in Formula 2. Bill was also more ready to use his fists than to engage in lengthy debates :-)
I should add that in the mid sixties a friend was persuaded by Bill Ivy to "come on a European driving holiday, all expenses paid" for a month or two. The vehicle turned out to be Bill's van, and my friend's expenses-paid holiday task was to sit in the back, on a cushion, and stop Bill's motorbike and toolboxes from flying about.Now if you want "short" you must have the late great Bill Ivy. A speed demon standing 5ft 3in. Insane on a bike, and had some good tries [but not the money] in Formula 2. Bill was also more ready to use his fists than to engage in lengthy debates :-)
Bobster
2016-12-09 03:10:32 UTC
Post by Bruce Hoult
The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to the ex-F1 guys.
Does being short give you some sort of low center of gravity advantage on a bike?The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to the ex-F1 guys.
Bruce Hoult
2016-12-09 07:51:12 UTC
Post by Bobster
In this case women (even taller ones) should win everything.Post by Bruce Hoult
The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to the ex-F1 guys.
Does being short give you some sort of low center of gravity advantage on a bike?The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to the ex-F1 guys.
They'd have to enter first, of course. There have been a couple in Moto3 recently.
Bigbird
2016-12-09 07:55:18 UTC
Post by Bobster
advantage on a bike?
Shortest answer: Valentino Rossi.Post by Bruce Hoult
The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider
in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to
the ex-F1 guys.
Does being short give you some sort of low center of gravityThe BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider
in the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to
the ex-F1 guys.
advantage on a bike?
Cute answer: Depends if you have fat legs.
There are many factors affected by size (height and weight). They
include aerodynamics, power/weight ratio, fuel consumption.
It is not only the CofG but being able to shift the CofG effectively
that is important.
However the short answer to all these considerations is that there is
little correlation between winning races and size (within recent
fields). You don't get many riders over 6ft and 70kg in the field and
you could consider those upper limits.
Jorge Lorenzo 173cm 64kg
Valentino Rossi 182cm 65kg
Dani pedrosa 160cm 51kg
Cal Crutchlow 170cm 70kg
geoff
2016-12-09 10:50:59 UTC
Dani's crutch is lower. And his weight.
geoff
geoff
Edmund
2016-12-09 09:08:46 UTC
Post by Bobster
Hardly, being short and thin gives a lower weight and better streamline.Post by Bruce Hoult
The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider in
the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to the
ex-F1 guys.
Does being short give you some sort of low center of gravity advantage on a bike?The BBC coverage (I think) was interviewing another Moto GP rider in
the pits at Abu Dhabi. Surprisingly short guy, even compared to the
ex-F1 guys.
Edmund
geoff
2016-12-09 10:56:12 UTC
But my lady tells me that what she really feels is the width. So short
and thin really doesn't quite make it. Long and thin wouldn't do much
either. Short and thick might do the trick, but long and thick just
ticks all the boxes. However too long (either thick or thin) would be
simply painful cervically.
geoff
and thin really doesn't quite make it. Long and thin wouldn't do much
either. Short and thick might do the trick, but long and thick just
ticks all the boxes. However too long (either thick or thin) would be
simply painful cervically.
geoff
Edmund
2016-12-09 11:32:23 UTC
Post by geoff
But my lady tells me that what she really feels is the width. So short
and thin really doesn't quite make it. Long and thin wouldn't do much
either. Short and thick might do the trick, but long and thick just
ticks all the boxes. However too long (either thick or thin) would be
simply painful cervically.
geoff
OK she obviously has a lot of experience :-)But my lady tells me that what she really feels is the width. So short
and thin really doesn't quite make it. Long and thin wouldn't do much
either. Short and thick might do the trick, but long and thick just
ticks all the boxes. However too long (either thick or thin) would be
simply painful cervically.
geoff
Edmund
Bigbird
2016-12-09 12:11:30 UTC
Post by geoff
But my lady tells me that what she really feels is the width. So
short and thin really doesn't quite make it. Long and thin wouldn't
do much either. Short and thick might do the trick, but long and
thick just ticks all the boxes. However too long (either thick or
thin) would be simply painful cervically.
If you are worried about size you are probably approaching the subjectBut my lady tells me that what she really feels is the width. So
short and thin really doesn't quite make it. Long and thin wouldn't
do much either. Short and thick might do the trick, but long and
thick just ticks all the boxes. However too long (either thick or
thin) would be simply painful cervically.
from the wrong angle.