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Hamilton Takes Dominant Win
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2017-07-16 15:51:18 UTC
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British GP: Hamilton takes dominant home win, disaster for Vettel
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/british-gp-hamilton-wins-silverstone-raikkonen-vettel-931576/

Lewis Hamilton took a record-equalling fifth British Grand Prix victory
in dominant fashion on home turf at Silverstone, slashing Sebastian
Vettel's championship lead to a single point.

From pole position, Hamilton took an early lead after a stoppage for
Jolyon Palmer's Renault on the warm-up lap, the result of brake-by-wire
and hydraulic problems, caused an aborted start and an extra formation lap.

The Mercedes driver quickly built up an advantage over the Ferrari of
second-placed Kimi Raikkonen, as Max Verstappen held up Vettel after
passing the points leader around the outside of The Loop on the opening
tour.

That was how the order at the front remained until the pitstops, where
Vettel was able to undercut Verstappen and move up to third, helped by a
slower stop for the Dutchman.

By the time Hamilton made his one and only stop on lap 25, he was 12
seconds clear of Raikkonen, and was never threatened thereafter as he
raced to a fourth win of the season and his fifth victory at
Silverstone, equalling Jim Clark and Alain Prost for British GP wins.

Raikkonen held second, but Vettel came under pressure from Valtteri
Bottas in the latter stages of the race, the Finn having recovered from
ninth on the grid following his five-place grid drop.

With Bottas going long on softs and then switching to supersofts, there
was nothing Vettel could do to hold off the Mercedes driver, who moved
ahead at Stowe on lap 43.

The Finn then set about closing on Raikkonen, who was suffering severe
tyre trouble in the closing stages, and passed just before his
compatriot had to make a second stop with three laps remaining.

That meant Bottas completed a Mercedes 1-2, 14 seconds behind Hamilton,
while Raikkonen took third a further 22 seconds back.

Vettel had been set for fourth after being demoted by Bottas, but a
dramatic front-left puncture for German as he entered Luffield on the
penultimate lap saw him drop down to seventh.

Verstappen inherited the place, also coming in for a precautionary late
second stop, followed by teammate Daniel Ricciardo, who moved up 14
places after starting on the back row to finish fifth.

Nico Hulkenberg was sixth in the sole surviving Renault, just two
seconds behind Ricciardo, followed by Vettel, Force India pair Esteban
Ocon and Sergio Perez, and the Williams of Felipe Massa.

Stoffel Vandoorne was the only finisher for McLaren in 11th, as Fernando
Alonso stopped just beyond half-distance with a drop in fuel pressure
and a subsequent loss of power.
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Alan Baker
2017-07-18 21:17:31 UTC
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British GP: Hamilton takes dominant home win, disaster for Vettel
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/british-gp-hamilton-wins-silverstone-raikkonen-vettel-931576/
A "dominant" win where his teammate had a 5 spot grid penalty...

...but still finished second only 14 seconds behind.
Sir Tim
2017-07-18 21:41:41 UTC
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British GP: Hamilton takes dominant home win, disaster for Vettel
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A "dominant" win where his teammate had a 5 spot grid penalty...
...but still finished second only 14 seconds behind.
The only time Hamilton put the hammer down was between laps 18 and 23.
During that period he extended his lead over Kimi Raikkonen from 4.3s to
10.6s
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2017-07-18 22:11:37 UTC
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British GP: Hamilton takes dominant home win, disaster for Vettel
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/british-gp-hamilton-wins-silverstone-raikkonen-vettel-931576/
A "dominant" win where his teammate had a 5 spot grid penalty...
...but still finished second only 14 seconds behind.
The only time Hamilton put the hammer down was between laps 18 and 23.
During that period he extended his lead over Kimi Raikkonen from 4.3s to
10.6s
Hamilton dropped to half-throttle mode after Ferrari failures
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hamilton-ferrari-failures-half-throttle-931831/
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Alan Baker
2017-07-18 22:27:18 UTC
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British GP: Hamilton takes dominant home win, disaster for Vettel
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/british-gp-hamilton-wins-silverstone-raikkonen-vettel-931576/
A "dominant" win where his teammate had a 5 spot grid penalty...
...but still finished second only 14 seconds behind.
The only time Hamilton put the hammer down was between laps 18 and 23.
During that period he extended his lead over Kimi Raikkonen from 4.3s to
10.6s
Hamilton dropped to half-throttle mode after Ferrari failures
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hamilton-ferrari-failures-half-throttle-931831/
Riiiiiiight. Half throttle, but he somehow magically turned his fastest
lap on lap 48.

He backed off for precisely three laps: 44, 45, 46.

He got back on it (most likely) because Bottas was then closing at more
than 1.5 seconds a lap.

He then slowed again once it was clear that Bottas could no longer close
the gap in time...

...as did Bottas.
geoff
2017-07-18 22:56:37 UTC
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British GP: Hamilton takes dominant home win, disaster for Vettel
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/british-gp-hamilton-wins-silverstone-raikkonen-vettel-931576/
A "dominant" win where his teammate had a 5 spot grid penalty...
...but still finished second only 14 seconds behind.
The only time Hamilton put the hammer down was between laps 18 and 23.
During that period he extended his lead over Kimi Raikkonen from 4.3s to
10.6s
Hamilton dropped to half-throttle mode after Ferrari failures
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hamilton-ferrari-failures-half-throttle-931831/
Riiiiiiight. Half throttle, but he somehow magically turned his
fastest lap on lap 48.
He backed off for precisely three laps: 44, 45, 46.
He got back on it (most likely) because Bottas was then closing at
more than 1.5 seconds a lap.
He then slowed again once it was clear that Bottas could no longer
close the gap in time...
...as did Bottas.
Do you really have very little else in your life other than attempting
every angle possible to belittle HAM ?

geoff
Alan Baker
2017-07-18 23:09:52 UTC
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British GP: Hamilton takes dominant home win, disaster for Vettel
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/british-gp-hamilton-wins-silverstone-raikkonen-vettel-931576/
A "dominant" win where his teammate had a 5 spot grid penalty...
...but still finished second only 14 seconds behind.
The only time Hamilton put the hammer down was between laps 18 and 23.
During that period he extended his lead over Kimi Raikkonen from 4.3s to
10.6s
Hamilton dropped to half-throttle mode after Ferrari failures
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hamilton-ferrari-failures-half-throttle-931831/
Riiiiiiight. Half throttle, but he somehow magically turned his
fastest lap on lap 48.
He backed off for precisely three laps: 44, 45, 46.
He got back on it (most likely) because Bottas was then closing at
more than 1.5 seconds a lap.
He then slowed again once it was clear that Bottas could no longer
close the gap in time...
...as did Bottas.
Do you really have very little else in your life other than attempting
every angle possible to belittle HAM ?
I'm just tired of the hero worship some seem to have for him.

It was only a dominant win because his teammate started at a large
disadvantage. Without the grid penalty, Bottas was clearly going to
finish much closer.
Sir Tim
2017-07-19 06:14:58 UTC
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It was only a dominant win because his teammate started at a large
disadvantage. Without the grid penalty, Bottas was clearly going to
finish much closer.
Ah, so you agree that it *was* a dominant win.
Alan Baker
2017-07-19 07:54:16 UTC
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It was only a dominant win because his teammate started at a large
disadvantage. Without the grid penalty, Bottas was clearly going to
finish much closer.
Ah, so you agree that it *was* a dominant win.
No. I agree that he was HANDED a margin.

A dominant win would be to build that from an even footing.
Bigbird
2017-07-19 09:03:13 UTC
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It was only a dominant win because...
Ah, so you agree that it was a dominant win.
No.
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2017-07-19 12:26:51 UTC
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It was only a dominant win because his teammate started at a large
disadvantage. Without the grid penalty, Bottas was clearly going to
finish much closer.
Ah, so you agree that it *was* a dominant win.
No. I agree that he was HANDED a margin.
A dominant win would be to build that from an even footing.
More rantings from an unaccomplished, thoroughly deceitful
loser, so green-eyed jealous that he obviously can't see straight.
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2017-07-18 23:57:08 UTC
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British GP: Hamilton takes dominant home win, disaster for Vettel
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/british-gp-hamilton-wins-silverstone-raikkonen-vettel-931576/
A "dominant" win where his teammate had a 5 spot grid penalty...
...but still finished second only 14 seconds behind.
The only time Hamilton put the hammer down was between laps 18 and
23. During that period he extended his lead over Kimi Raikkonen
from 4.3s to
10.6s
Hamilton dropped to half-throttle mode after Ferrari failures
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hamilton-ferrari-failures-half-throttle-931831/
Riiiiiiight. Half throttle, but he somehow magically turned his
fastest lap on lap 48.
He backed off for precisely three laps: 44, 45, 46.
He got back on it (most likely) because Bottas was then closing at
more than 1.5 seconds a lap.
He then slowed again once it was clear that Bottas could no longer
close the gap in time...
...as did Bottas.
Do you really have very little else in your life other than attempting
every angle possible to belittle HAM ?
It is blindingly obvious that indeed, you're right and Baker's got a few
screws loose.

What I find more confounding is why otherwise seemingly sane people continue
to engage him and get taken in by his trolling. One troll is far easier to
ignore than five trolled people replying multiple times a day. Which is the
bigger blight?
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2017-07-19 00:52:34 UTC
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It is blindingly obvious that indeed, you're right and Baker's got a few
screws loose.
What I find more confounding is why otherwise seemingly sane people continue
to engage him and get taken in by his trolling. One troll is far easier to
ignore than five trolled people replying multiple times a day. Which is the
bigger blight?
You fucking whiny tit.
Geoff
2017-07-19 01:19:38 UTC
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What I find more confounding is why otherwise seemingly sane people continue
to engage him and get taken in by his trolling. One troll is far easier to
ignore than five trolled people replying multiple times a day. Which is the
bigger blight?
I've never been accused of being seeming sane before !

What is sad is that he actually isn't trolling. He really does appear to
be the sad little loser he comes across as, wishing nobody to achieve
the recognition that he has never remotely been likely to approach.
Especially somebody with whichever it is of HAM's aspects that
(subconsciously ?) deeply irks him.

geoff
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2017-07-19 01:26:42 UTC
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What I find more confounding is why otherwise seemingly sane people continue
to engage him and get taken in by his trolling. One troll is far easier to
ignore than five trolled people replying multiple times a day. Which is the
bigger blight?
I've never been accused of being seeming sane before !
What is sad is that he actually isn't trolling. He really does appear to
be the sad little loser he comes across as, wishing nobody to achieve
the recognition that he has never remotely been likely to approach.
Especially somebody with whichever it is of HAM's aspects that
(subconsciously ?) deeply irks him.
geoff
Talking to yourself?
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2017-07-19 07:53:41 UTC
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What I find more confounding is why otherwise seemingly sane people continue
to engage him and get taken in by his trolling. One troll is far easier to
ignore than five trolled people replying multiple times a day. Which is the
bigger blight?
I've never been accused of being seeming sane before !
What is sad is that he actually isn't trolling. He really does appear to
be the sad little loser he comes across as, wishing nobody to achieve
the recognition that he has never remotely been likely to approach.
Especially somebody with whichever it is of HAM's aspects that
(subconsciously ?) deeply irks him.
geoff
Sorry, but you have it completely wrong.
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2017-07-20 09:20:04 UTC
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What I find more confounding is why otherwise seemingly sane people
continue to engage him and get taken in by his trolling. One troll
is far easier to ignore than five trolled people replying multiple
times a day. Which is the bigger blight?
I've never been accused of being seeming sane before !
Understandably. ;)
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What is sad is that he actually isn't trolling. He really does appear
to be the sad little loser he comes across as, wishing nobody to
achieve the recognition that he has never remotely been likely to
approach. Especially somebody with whichever it is of HAM's aspects
that (subconsciously ?) deeply irks him.
The most successful trolls appear to believe that they're in fact sane and
just misguided. That way people engage them more than just saying 'fuck off
idiot'. Witness the responses Baker gets compared with 'Texasgate' as an
example...

Baker gets hours of enjoyment every day from rasf1. Every time someone
replies to him he fells much less useless and friendless than he really is.
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Alan Baker
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What I find more confounding is why otherwise seemingly sane people
continue to engage him and get taken in by his trolling. One troll
is far easier to ignore than five trolled people replying multiple
times a day. Which is the bigger blight?
I've never been accused of being seeming sane before !
Understandably. ;)
Post by Geoff
What is sad is that he actually isn't trolling. He really does appear
to be the sad little loser he comes across as, wishing nobody to
achieve the recognition that he has never remotely been likely to
approach. Especially somebody with whichever it is of HAM's aspects
that (subconsciously ?) deeply irks him.
The most successful trolls appear to believe that they're in fact sane and
just misguided. That way people engage them more than just saying 'fuck off
idiot'. Witness the responses Baker gets compared with 'Texasgate' as an
example...
Baker gets hours of enjoyment every day from rasf1. Every time someone
replies to him he fells much less useless and friendless than he really is.
Another without a single clue about me.

:-)
Geoff
2017-07-21 00:05:00 UTC
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Baker gets hours of enjoyment every day from rasf1. Every time someone
replies to him he fells much less useless and friendless than he really is.
Another without a single clue about me.
:-)
What him, and yourself ?

geoff
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2017-07-21 00:06:48 UTC
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Baker gets hours of enjoyment every day from rasf1. Every time someone
replies to him he fells much less useless and friendless than he really is.
Another without a single clue about me.
:-)
What him, and yourself ?
geoff
That was almost humourous...

;-)
Bigbird
2017-07-21 05:29:28 UTC
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Baker gets hours of enjoyment every day from rasf1. Every time
someone replies to him he fells much less useless and
friendless than he really is.
Another without a single clue about me.
:-)
What him, and yourself ?
geoff
That was almost humourous...
;-)
More an elbow than a low blow.
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2017-07-19 00:56:21 UTC
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Do you really have very little else in your life
As opposed to gay sex? Logoff ass fucker.
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2017-07-19 01:12:10 UTC
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Do you really have very little else in your life
As opposed to gay sex? Logoff ass fucker.
I don't actually killfile many people...

...but being as repetitively boring as you wins.
Bigbird
2017-07-19 06:22:35 UTC
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Riiiiiiight. Half throttle, but he somehow magically turned his
fastest lap on lap 48.
He backed off for precisely three laps: 44, 45, 46.
He got back on it (most likely) because Bottas was then closing at
more than 1.5 seconds a lap.
You always seem to fail the simplest analysis. He set his fastest lap
on lap 48 because he could... simply to get the fastest lap and ensure
the grand slam.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/features/2016/5/f1_s-grand-slam-winners.html
Sir Tim
2017-07-19 07:44:11 UTC
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Riiiiiiight. Half throttle, but he somehow magically turned his
fastest lap on lap 48.
He backed off for precisely three laps: 44, 45, 46.
He got back on it (most likely) because Bottas was then closing at
more than 1.5 seconds a lap.
You always seem to fail the simplest analysis. He set his fastest lap
on lap 48 because he could... simply to get the fastest lap and ensure
the grand slam.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/features/2016/5/f1_s-grand-slam-winners.html
Yes, they mentioned that on Sky. Yet another sign that it was indeed a
dominant win.
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2017-07-19 07:52:45 UTC
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Riiiiiiight. Half throttle, but he somehow magically turned his
fastest lap on lap 48.
He backed off for precisely three laps: 44, 45, 46.
He got back on it (most likely) because Bottas was then closing at
more than 1.5 seconds a lap.
You always seem to fail the simplest analysis. He set his fastest lap
on lap 48 because he could... simply to get the fastest lap and ensure
the grand slam.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/features/2016/5/f1_s-grand-slam-winners.html
Riiiiiiight.

The fact remains that his "dominant" win was in part predicated on his
margin of victory, and the margin would have been a lot smaller except
for the fact that Bottas had a 5 place penalty.
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2017-07-19 09:04:58 UTC
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Riiiiiiight. Half throttle, but he somehow magically turned his
fastest lap on lap 48.
He backed off for precisely three laps: 44, 45, 46.
He got back on it (most likely) because Bottas was then closing at
more than 1.5 seconds a lap.
You always seem to fail the simplest analysis. He set his fastest
lap on lap 48 because he could... simply to get the fastest lap and
ensure the grand slam.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/features/2016/5/f1_s-grand-slam-winners.html
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Riiiiiiight.
Right!
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2017-07-19 14:35:07 UTC
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Riiiiiiight. Half throttle, but he somehow magically turned his
fastest lap on lap 48.
He backed off for precisely three laps: 44, 45, 46.
He got back on it (most likely) because Bottas was then closing at
more than 1.5 seconds a lap.
You always seem to fail the simplest analysis. He set his fastest lap
on lap 48 because he could... simply to get the fastest lap and ensure
the grand slam.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/features/2016/5/f1_s-grand-slam-winners.html
An admittedly dated report. Currently:

"Hamilton now has five career Grand Slams – tied for the second-most
of all-time."

"Three of Hamilton’s four wins this season have now come in this
fashion, tying (leaders) Ascari (1952), Clark (1963 & 1965) and
Nigel Mansell (1992) for most Grand Slams in a single season."

More here:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/features/2017/7/f1-silverstone-stats-hamilton-jim-clark-two-exclusive-clubs.html
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2017-07-19 15:46:04 UTC
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Riiiiiiight. Half throttle, but he somehow magically turned his
fastest lap on lap 48.
He backed off for precisely three laps: 44, 45, 46.
He got back on it (most likely) because Bottas was then closing at
more than 1.5 seconds a lap.
You always seem to fail the simplest analysis. He set his fastest lap
on lap 48 because he could... simply to get the fastest lap and ensure
the grand slam.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/features/2016/5/f1_s-grand-slam-winners.html
"Hamilton now has five career Grand Slams – tied for the second-most
of all-time."
"Three of Hamilton’s four wins this season have now come in this
fashion, tying (leaders) Ascari (1952), Clark (1963 & 1965) and
Nigel Mansell (1992) for most Grand Slams in a single season."
Meh. Well done on the grand slam, but one can make too much of these. None of those other drivers had a 20 race season, thus 20 chances of a grand slam.
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2017-07-19 16:31:56 UTC
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Riiiiiiight. Half throttle, but he somehow magically turned his
fastest lap on lap 48.
He backed off for precisely three laps: 44, 45, 46.
He got back on it (most likely) because Bottas was then closing at
more than 1.5 seconds a lap.
You always seem to fail the simplest analysis. He set his fastest lap
on lap 48 because he could... simply to get the fastest lap and ensure
the grand slam.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/features/2016/5/f1_s-grand-slam-winners.html
"Hamilton now has five career Grand Slams – tied for the second-most
of all-time."
"Three of Hamilton’s four wins this season have now come in this
fashion, tying (leaders) Ascari (1952), Clark (1963 & 1965) and
Nigel Mansell (1992) for most Grand Slams in a single season."
Meh. Well done on the grand slam, but one can make too much of these. None of those other drivers had a 20 race season, thus 20 chances of a grand slam.
All of Hamilton's grand slams occurred relatively early in the
season, so you're point clearly doesn't apply.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_driver_records#Pole.2C_win.2C_fastest_lap.2C_and_led_every_lap

Your pathetically feeble attempts to further besmisch LH's record
breaking accomplishments fail yet once again, and the fact remains
that you continue to be as full of shit, as always.

As with any narcissist, you desperately hope and need to be:
noticed, a center of attention and responded to.
https://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2008/08/04/how-to-spot-a-narcissist/
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2017-07-19 16:40:38 UTC
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"Hamilton now has five career Grand Slams – tied for the second-most
of all-time."
"Three of Hamilton’s four wins this season have now come in this
fashion, tying (leaders) Ascari (1952), Clark (1963 & 1965) and
Nigel Mansell (1992) for most Grand Slams in a single season."
Meh. Well done on the grand slam, but one can make too much of these. None of those other drivers had a 20 race season, thus 20 chances of a grand slam.
All of Hamilton's grand slams occurred relatively early in the
season, so you're point clearly doesn't apply.
Well, his most recent was in the TENTH race of the season. In the two seasons in which Clark got three grand slams, there were only ten races in a season. So Clark got a 30% rate in two seasons. Hamilton isn't close.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_driver_records#Pole.2C_win.2C_fastest_lap.2C_and_led_every_lap
Your pathetically feeble attempts to further besmisch LH's record
breaking accomplishments fail yet once again, and the fact remains
that you continue to be as full of shit, as always.
It is true that my inclination to prostrate myself at the very mention of his name does not match yours.
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noticed, a center of attention and responded to.
Oh. I am wounded. Please stop. The pain is too great.
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2017-07-19 16:53:43 UTC
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"Hamilton now has five career Grand Slams – tied for the second-most
of all-time."
"Three of Hamilton’s four wins this season have now come in this
fashion, tying (leaders) Ascari (1952), Clark (1963 & 1965) and
Nigel Mansell (1992) for most Grand Slams in a single season."
Meh. Well done on the grand slam, but one can make too much of these. None of those other drivers had a 20 race season, thus 20 chances of a grand slam.
All of Hamilton's grand slams occurred relatively early in the
season, so you're point clearly doesn't apply.
Well, his most recent was in the TENTH race of the season. In the two seasons in which Clark got three grand slams, there were only ten races in a season.
Comparatively small sample worth ignoring in a much less competitive time.
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So Clark got a 30% rate in two seasons. Hamilton isn't close.
There's no evidence that Clark would know how to or could
successfully drive Hamilton's car.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_driver_records#Pole.2C_win.2C_fastest_lap.2C_and_led_every_lap
Your pathetically feeble attempts to further besmisch LH's record
breaking accomplishments fail yet once again, and the fact remains
that you continue to be as full of shit, as always.
It is true that my inclination to prostrate myself at the very mention of his name does not match yours.
Unlike you I can not only distinguish facts from fiction,
but can also truthfully and accurately relate it.
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noticed, a center of attention and responded to.
Oh. I am wounded. Please stop. The pain is too great.
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https://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2008/08/04/how-to-spot-a-narcissist/
As I've said before, I'm here solely for the record.

I couldn't begin to care less if or how my remarks
impact you or anyone else.
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2017-07-19 18:02:46 UTC
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All of Hamilton's grand slams occurred relatively early in the
season, so you're point clearly doesn't apply.
Well, his most recent was in the TENTH race of the season. In the two seasons in which Clark got three grand slams, there were only ten races in a season.
Comparatively small sample worth ignoring in a much less competitive time.
Says who? Oh, you. Unbiased, knowledgeable, totally objective.
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So Clark got a 30% rate in two seasons. Hamilton isn't close.
There's no evidence that Clark would know how to or could
successfully drive Hamilton's car.
Red herring. Nobody mentioned it anyway.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_driver_records#Pole.2C_win.2C_fastest_lap.2C_and_led_every_lap
Your pathetically feeble attempts to further besmisch LH's record
breaking accomplishments fail yet once again, and the fact remains
that you continue to be as full of shit, as always.
It is true that my inclination to prostrate myself at the very mention of his name does not match yours.
Unlike you I can not only distinguish facts from fiction,
but can also truthfully and accurately relate it.
Your dragging up a point that nobody had made says otherwise.
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noticed, a center of attention and responded to.
Oh. I am wounded. Please stop. The pain is too great.
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https://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2008/08/04/how-to-spot-a-narcissist/
As I've said before, I'm here solely for the record.
And your posts are recorded.
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I couldn't begin to care less if or how my remarks
impact you or anyone else.
Which is why you keep on replying.

OK... enough wasting your time here. Back to your altar.
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keithr0
2017-07-20 14:05:04 UTC
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"Hamilton now has five career Grand Slams – tied for the second-most
of all-time."
"Three of Hamilton’s four wins this season have now come in this
fashion, tying (leaders) Ascari (1952), Clark (1963 & 1965) and
Nigel Mansell (1992) for most Grand Slams in a single season."
Meh. Well done on the grand slam, but one can make too much of
these. None of those other drivers had a 20 race season, thus 20
chances of a grand slam.
All of Hamilton's grand slams occurred relatively early in the
season, so you're point clearly doesn't apply.
Well, his most recent was in the TENTH race of the season. In the two
seasons in which Clark got three grand slams, there were only ten
races in a season.
Comparatively small sample worth ignoring in a much less competitive time.
Post by Bobster
So Clark got a 30% rate in two seasons. Hamilton isn't close.
There's no evidence that Clark would know how to or could
successfully drive Hamilton's car.
There's no evidence that Hamilton would know how to or could
successfully drive Clark's car.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_driver_records#Pole.2C_win.2C_fastest_lap.2C_and_led_every_lap
Your pathetically feeble attempts to further besmisch LH's record
breaking accomplishments fail yet once again, and the fact remains
that you continue to be as full of shit, as always.
It is true that my inclination to prostrate myself at the very mention
of his name does not match yours.
Unlike you I can not only distinguish facts from fiction,
but can also truthfully and accurately relate it.
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noticed, a center of attention and responded to.
Oh. I am wounded. Please stop. The pain is too great.
Post by .
https://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2008/08/04/how-to-spot-a-narcissist/
As I've said before, I'm here solely for the record.
I couldn't begin to care less if or how my remarks
impact you or anyone else.
.
2017-07-20 14:08:56 UTC
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"Hamilton now has five career Grand Slams – tied for the second-most
of all-time."
"Three of Hamilton’s four wins this season have now come in this
fashion, tying (leaders) Ascari (1952), Clark (1963 & 1965) and
Nigel Mansell (1992) for most Grand Slams in a single season."
Meh. Well done on the grand slam, but one can make too much of
these. None of those other drivers had a 20 race season, thus 20
chances of a grand slam.
All of Hamilton's grand slams occurred relatively early in the
season, so you're point clearly doesn't apply.
Well, his most recent was in the TENTH race of the season. In the two
seasons in which Clark got three grand slams, there were only ten
races in a season.
Comparatively small sample worth ignoring in a much less competitive time.
Post by Bobster
So Clark got a 30% rate in two seasons. Hamilton isn't close.
There's no evidence that Clark would know how to or could
successfully drive Hamilton's car.
There's no evidence that Hamilton would know how to or could
successfully drive Clark's car.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_driver_records#Pole.2C_win.2C_fastest_lap.2C_and_led_every_lap
Your pathetically feeble attempts to further besmisch LH's record
breaking accomplishments fail yet once again, and the fact remains
that you continue to be as full of shit, as always.
It is true that my inclination to prostrate myself at the very mention
of his name does not match yours.
Unlike you I can not only distinguish facts from fiction,
but can also truthfully and accurately relate it.
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Post by .
noticed, a center of attention and responded to.
Oh. I am wounded. Please stop. The pain is too great.
Post by .
https://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2008/08/04/how-to-spot-a-narcissist/
As I've said before, I'm here solely for the record.
I couldn't begin to care less if or how my remarks
impact you or anyone else.
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Alan Baker
2017-07-20 21:55:00 UTC
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"Hamilton now has five career Grand Slams – tied for the second-most
of all-time."
"Three of Hamilton’s four wins this season have now come in this
fashion, tying (leaders) Ascari (1952), Clark (1963 & 1965) and
Nigel Mansell (1992) for most Grand Slams in a single season."
Meh. Well done on the grand slam, but one can make too much of
these. None of those other drivers had a 20 race season, thus 20
chances of a grand slam.
All of Hamilton's grand slams occurred relatively early in the
season, so you're point clearly doesn't apply.
Well, his most recent was in the TENTH race of the season. In the two
seasons in which Clark got three grand slams, there were only ten
races in a season.
Comparatively small sample worth ignoring in a much less competitive time.
Post by Bobster
So Clark got a 30% rate in two seasons. Hamilton isn't close.
There's no evidence that Clark would know how to or could
successfully drive Hamilton's car.
There's no evidence that Hamilton would know how to or could
successfully drive Clark's car.
Wow. That was one of your more cogent posts.

What? You forgot to write anything?

I know.

:-)

Now, would you like me to define "cogent" for you?
Bigbird
2017-07-21 05:40:44 UTC
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Wow. That was one of your more cogent posts.
What? You forgot to write anything?
1/10 for observation.
m***@gmail.com
2017-08-02 17:50:00 UTC
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"Hamilton now has five career Grand Slams – tied for the second-most
of all-time."
"Three of Hamilton’s four wins this season have now come in this
fashion, tying (leaders) Ascari (1952), Clark (1963 & 1965) and
Nigel Mansell (1992) for most Grand Slams in a single season."
Meh. Well done on the grand slam, but one can make too much of
these. None of those other drivers had a 20 race season, thus 20
chances of a grand slam.
All of Hamilton's grand slams occurred relatively early in the
season, so you're point clearly doesn't apply.
Well, his most recent was in the TENTH race of the season. In the two
seasons in which Clark got three grand slams, there were only ten
races in a season.
Comparatively small sample worth ignoring in a much less competitive time.
Post by Bobster
So Clark got a 30% rate in two seasons. Hamilton isn't close.
There's no evidence that Clark would know how to or could
successfully drive Hamilton's car.
There's no evidence that Hamilton would know how to or could
successfully drive Clark's car.
Wow. That was one of your more cogent posts.
What? You forgot to write anything?
I know.
:-)
Now, would you like me to define "cogent" for you?
Wow!! You are such a rare genius, in your own, sick little mind.

They don't call you Shit Stain nothing.

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Riiiiiiight. Half throttle, but he somehow magically turned his
fastest lap on lap 48.
He backed off for precisely three laps: 44, 45, 46.
He got back on it (most likely) because Bottas was then closing at
more than 1.5 seconds a lap.
You always seem to fail the simplest analysis. He set his fastest lap
on lap 48 because he could... simply to get the fastest lap and ensure
the grand slam.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/features/2016/5/f1_s-grand-slam-winners.html
"Hamilton now has five career Grand Slams – tied for the second-most
of all-time."
"Three of Hamilton’s four wins this season have now come in this
fashion, tying (leaders) Ascari (1952), Clark (1963 & 1965) and
Nigel Mansell (1992) for most Grand Slams in a single season."
Meh. Well done on the grand slam, but one can make too much of these.
None of those other drivers had a 20 race season, thus 20 chances of a
grand slam.
All of Hamilton's grand slams occurred relatively early in the
season, so you're point clearly doesn't apply.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_driver_records#Pole.2C_win.2C_fastest_lap.2C_and_led_every_lap
We can add a lack of understanding of statistics to your failings...
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Your pathetically feeble attempts to further besmisch LH's record
breaking accomplishments fail yet once again, and the fact remains
that you continue to be as full of shit, as always.
noticed, a center of attention and responded to.
https://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2008/08/04/how-to-spot-a-narcissist/
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Riiiiiiight. Half throttle, but he somehow magically turned his
fastest lap on lap 48.
He backed off for precisely three laps: 44, 45, 46.
He got back on it (most likely) because Bottas was then closing at
more than 1.5 seconds a lap.
You always seem to fail the simplest analysis. He set his fastest lap
on lap 48 because he could... simply to get the fastest lap and ensure
the grand slam.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/features/2016/5/f1_s-grand-slam-winners.html
"Hamilton now has five career Grand Slams – tied for the second-most
of all-time."
"Three of Hamilton’s four wins this season have now come in this
fashion, tying (leaders) Ascari (1952), Clark (1963 & 1965) and
Nigel Mansell (1992) for most Grand Slams in a single season."
Meh. Well done on the grand slam, but one can make too much of these.
None of those other drivers had a 20 race season, thus 20 chances of
a grand slam.
All of Hamilton's grand slams occurred relatively early in the
season, so you're point clearly doesn't apply.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_driver_records#Pole.2C_win.2C_fastest_lap.2C_and_led_every_lap
We can add a lack of understanding of statistics to your failings...
Yet another of the self confessed narcissistic clowns with the
multiple "we" personalities.
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Your pathetically feeble attempts to further besmisch LH's record
breaking accomplishments fail yet once again, and the fact remains
that you continue to be as full of shit, as always.
noticed, a center of attention and responded to.
https://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2008/08/04/how-to-spot-a-narcissist/
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2017-07-19 09:48:12 UTC
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British GP: Hamilton takes dominant home win, disaster for Vettel
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/british-gp-hamilton-wins-silverstone-raikkonen-vettel-931576/
A "dominant" win where his teammate had a 5 spot grid penalty...
...but still finished second only 14 seconds behind.
The only time Hamilton put the hammer down was between laps 18 and 23.
During that period he extended his lead over Kimi Raikkonen from 4.3s to
10.6s
Hamilton dropped to half-throttle mode after Ferrari failures
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hamilton-ferrari-failures-half-throttle-931831/
Riiiiiiight. Half throttle, but he somehow magically turned his fastest
lap on lap 48.
He backed off for precisely three laps: 44, 45, 46.
No. Looking at the FIA lap charts, you can see that he really only backed off for the last two laps.

I think all the "ra ra Lewis" stuff going on here misses a significant point. Namely that the Mercedes had a significant speed advantage over Ferrari.

In fact they have done since Canada at least, but things kept on going wrong.

So Ferrari must have some food for thought now. Merc have clearly got their car figured out, got the tyres figured out, and it looks like they have unlocked their car's performance now.

Early on it looked like Ferrari and Merc were not far from each other performance wise, now for three races Merc have been significantly quicker.

Maybe Ferrari should be worried.
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2017-07-18 22:22:59 UTC
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British GP: Hamilton takes dominant home win, disaster for Vettel
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/british-gp-hamilton-wins-silverstone-raikkonen-vettel-931576/
A "dominant" win where his teammate had a 5 spot grid penalty...
...but still finished second only 14 seconds behind.
The only time Hamilton put the hammer down was between laps 18 and 23.
During that period he extended his lead over Kimi Raikkonen from 4.3s to
10.6s
OK... ...so?

With 7 other cars between himself and Hamilton, Bottas was going to run
slower for at least some time. It's not like he had backmarkers to pass,
is it?

Fact: a grid penalty severely compromised Bottas's early lap times.
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