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F1 streaming launches
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2018-02-28 04:23:33 UTC
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* Access will cost users between US$8 and US$12 a month. There will also be a non-live OTT platform at reduced fee.
* For the pilot season the service will be available in Germany, France, USA, Mexico, Belgium, Austria, Hungary and much of Latin America. The service will be available in English, French, German and Spanish.
* Access will initially be available through desktop and web, with mobile apps and TV apps being phased in on Amazon, Apple and Android.
* Streams will be commercial free
* includes support races
D Munz
2018-03-01 12:56:51 UTC
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* Access will cost users between US$8 and US$12 a month. There will also be a non-live OTT platform at reduced fee.
* For the pilot season the service will be available in Germany, France, USA, Mexico, Belgium, Austria, Hungary and much of Latin America. The service will be available in English, French, German and Spanish.
* Access will initially be available through desktop and web, with mobile apps and TV apps being phased in on Amazon, Apple and Android.
* Streams will be commercial free
* includes support races
Burried in the details is also something about access to the F1 archive.

That could be the real gem in the deal. I'm pretty much all about time-slipping the races these days and watching on the DVR so live streaming is not that big a draw but access to the secret archive of F1 video could be really cool.

FWIW
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m***@gmail.com
2018-03-02 06:04:21 UTC
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* Access will cost users between US$8 and US$12 a month. There will also be a non-live OTT platform at reduced fee.
* For the pilot season the service will be available in Germany, France, USA, Mexico, Belgium, Austria, Hungary and much of Latin America. The service will be available in English, French, German and Spanish.
* Access will initially be available through desktop and web, with mobile apps and TV apps being phased in on Amazon, Apple and Android.
* Streams will be commercial free
* includes support races
AIUI there is an offer on the table by which Sky can offer the stream in the UK. At a price, of course, but as an alternative to having to buy a full sky package.
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2018-03-06 12:10:42 UTC
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https://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2018/02/what-youve-been-waiting-for-f1-tv-launches-live-streaming-ott-platform/
* Access will cost users between US$8 and US$12 a month. There will also be a non-live OTT platform at reduced fee.
* For the pilot season the service will be available in Germany, France, USA, Mexico, Belgium, Austria, Hungary and much of Latin America. The service will be available in English, French, German and Spanish.
* Access will initially be available through desktop and web, with mobile apps and TV apps being phased in on Amazon, Apple and Android.
* Streams will be commercial free
* includes support races
AIUI there is an offer on the table by which Sky can offer the stream in the UK. At a price, of course, but as an alternative to having to buy a full sky package.
Liberty says they will stop fans using Virtual Private Network (VPN) technology to access the feeds from countries like the UK, Aust, etc.

Damn.
Alister
2018-03-06 14:14:49 UTC
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* Access will cost users between US$8 and US$12 a month. There will
also be a non-live OTT platform at reduced fee.
* For the pilot season the service will be available in Germany,
France, USA, Mexico, Belgium, Austria, Hungary and much of Latin
America. The service will be available in English, French, German and
Spanish.
* Access will initially be available through desktop and web, with
mobile apps and TV apps being phased in on Amazon, Apple and Android.
* Streams will be commercial free * includes support races
AIUI there is an offer on the table by which Sky can offer the stream
in the UK. At a price, of course, but as an alternative to having to
buy a full sky package.
Liberty says they will stop fans using Virtual Private Network (VPN)
technology to access the feeds from countries like the UK, Aust, etc.
Damn.
they can try but I am not sure how they could manage it
possibly blocking the IP address of the VPN hosts individually but that
would be like trying to fight the Hydra.

the only real way they could be successfully is to offer the official
streaming service at a reasonable price so that tying to circumvent it is
just not worth the hassle
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Mark Jackson
2018-03-06 15:07:32 UTC
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Liberty says they will stop fans using Virtual Private Network
(VPN) technology to access the feeds from countries like the UK,
Aust, etc.
Damn.
they can try but I am not sure how they could manage it possibly
blocking the IP address of the VPN hosts individually but that would
be like trying to fight the Hydra.
the only real way they could be successfully is to offer the
official streaming service at a reasonable price so that tying to
circumvent it is just not worth the hassle
Not possible where existing TV contracts preclude offering live
streaming - at any price.
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2018-03-06 15:23:37 UTC
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Liberty says they will stop fans using Virtual Private Network
(VPN) technology to access the feeds from countries like the UK,
Aust, etc.
Damn.
they can try but I am not sure how they could manage it possibly
blocking the IP address of the VPN hosts individually but that would
be like trying to fight the Hydra.
the only real way they could be successfully is to offer the
official streaming service at a reasonable price so that tying to
circumvent it is just not worth the hassle
Not possible where existing TV contracts preclude offering live
streaming - at any price.
--
Mark Jackson
G'day Mark,
Sky, etc are offering a secondary OTT product like the F1TV at prices higher than F1TV but lower than the Sky subscription. In OZ, Foxtel (Sky) offer a TV subscription that costs $69ish but also offer a thing called FoxtelNow for PC, Phone, etc that costs $39ish.

beers,
m***@gmail.com
2018-03-06 15:44:54 UTC
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Liberty says they will stop fans using Virtual Private Network
(VPN) technology to access the feeds from countries like the UK,
Aust, etc.
Damn.
they can try but I am not sure how they could manage it possibly
blocking the IP address of the VPN hosts individually but that would
be like trying to fight the Hydra.
the only real way they could be successfully is to offer the
official streaming service at a reasonable price so that tying to
circumvent it is just not worth the hassle
Not possible where existing TV contracts preclude offering live
streaming - at any price.
Liberty are not opposed to negotiation on this. Apparently a compromise solution is on offer to SKY, whereby SKY get to sell the stream in the UK, at a discounted price, so that those who don't want to sign up with SKY can still watch F1, and SKY still get some revenue from that audience.
m***@gmail.com
2018-03-06 15:23:53 UTC
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Liberty says they will stop fans using Virtual Private Network (VPN)
technology to access the feeds from countries like the UK, Aust, etc.
Damn.
they can try but I am not sure how they could manage it
possibly blocking the IP address of the VPN hosts individually but that
would be like trying to fight the Hydra.
the only real way they could be successfully is to offer the official
streaming service at a reasonable price so that tying to circumvent it is
just not worth the hassle
$8 a month seems reasonable. And that's for the live stream. There will be a delayed stream at a lower cost.
Bigbird
2018-03-06 18:51:08 UTC
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Liberty says they will stop fans using Virtual Private Network
(VPN) technology to access the feeds from countries like the UK,
Aust, etc.
Damn.
they can try but I am not sure how they could manage it
possibly blocking the IP address of the VPN hosts individually but
that would be like trying to fight the Hydra.
the only real way they could be successfully is to offer the
official streaming service at a reasonable price so that tying to
circumvent it is just not worth the hassle
$8 a month seems reasonable. And that's for the live stream. There
will be a delayed stream at a lower cost.
That is a steal. I do not believe that would offer that deal in the UK.
They would be cutting their own throats.

The closest thing to such an offer so far was more than that for a
single day... excluding Sky Go that is.

I think £5 per weekend would be a very well recieved selling point.
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2018-03-06 15:27:49 UTC
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* Access will cost users between US$8 and US$12 a month. There will
also be a non-live OTT platform at reduced fee.
* For the pilot season the service will be available in Germany,
France, USA, Mexico, Belgium, Austria, Hungary and much of Latin
America. The service will be available in English, French, German and
Spanish.
* Access will initially be available through desktop and web, with
mobile apps and TV apps being phased in on Amazon, Apple and Android.
* Streams will be commercial free * includes support races
AIUI there is an offer on the table by which Sky can offer the stream
in the UK. At a price, of course, but as an alternative to having to
buy a full sky package.
Liberty says they will stop fans using Virtual Private Network (VPN)
technology to access the feeds from countries like the UK, Aust, etc.
Damn.
they can try but I am not sure how they could manage it
possibly blocking the IP address of the VPN hosts individually but that
would be like trying to fight the Hydra.
the only real way they could be successfully is to offer the official
streaming service at a reasonable price so that tying to circumvent it is
just not worth the hassle
G'day Al,
Liberty could easily be very disruptive to anyone using a VPN but as you say it may be difficult to stop it. We will see ...

beers,
Bigbird
2018-03-06 18:45:27 UTC
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Liberty says they will stop fans using Virtual Private Network (VPN)
technology to access the feeds from countries like the UK, Aust, etc.
Damn.
they can try but I am not sure how they could manage it
possibly blocking the IP address of the VPN hosts individually but
that would be like trying to fight the Hydra.
Simply blocking any IP used by more than a reasonable number of users
would block a fairly high percentage I would think.
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