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Volunteer's Day
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Bobster
2017-05-13 05:17:30 UTC
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Nice to see FIA have the first Volunteer's day at Barcelona, an acknowledgement of the invaluable role that many unpaid volunteers play in the sport at even the highest level.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/headlines/2017/5/f1-stars-help-mark-first-fia-volunteers-day.html
News
2017-05-13 13:45:21 UTC
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Nice to see FIA have the first Volunteer's day at Barcelona, an acknowledgement of the invaluable role that many unpaid volunteers play in the sport at even the highest level.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/headlines/2017/5/f1-stars-help-mark-first-fia-volunteers-day.html
FIA is decades late on this, but better than no recognition at all.

What would it cost to stage an F1 race with risk-based compensated
marshals, race officials, medical staff and others?
Bruce Hoult
2017-05-13 19:36:33 UTC
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Nice to see FIA have the first Volunteer's day at Barcelona, an acknowledgement of the invaluable role that many unpaid volunteers play in the sport at even the highest level.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/headlines/2017/5/f1-stars-help-mark-first-fia-volunteers-day.html
FIA is decades late on this, but better than no recognition at all.
What would it cost to stage an F1 race with risk-based compensated
marshals, race officials, medical staff and others?
Yes, it's pretty astounding if they still don't get paid, given the money sloshing around.
Bruce Hoult
2017-05-13 19:38:39 UTC
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Nice to see FIA have the first Volunteer's day at Barcelona, an acknowledgement of the invaluable role that many unpaid volunteers play in the sport at even the highest level.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/headlines/2017/5/f1-stars-help-mark-first-fia-volunteers-day.html
FIA is decades late on this, but better than no recognition at all.
What would it cost to stage an F1 race with risk-based compensated
marshals, race officials, medical staff and others?
Yes, it's pretty astounding if they still don't get paid, given the money sloshing around.
I can understand it at a meet like this, last weekend near Kazan, Russia. But not F1.



Mark Jackson
2017-05-13 19:40:11 UTC
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Yes, it's pretty astounding if they still don't get paid, given the money sloshing around.
As of a few years ago every team has a sophisticated SRS (slosh recovery
system) to ensure no money escapes.
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Bobster
2017-05-14 03:05:39 UTC
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Nice to see FIA have the first Volunteer's day at Barcelona, an acknowledgement of the invaluable role that many unpaid volunteers play in the sport at even the highest level.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/headlines/2017/5/f1-stars-help-mark-first-fia-volunteers-day.html
FIA is decades late on this, but better than no recognition at all.
What would it cost to stage an F1 race with risk-based compensated
marshals, race officials, medical staff and others?
Yes, it's pretty astounding if they still don't get paid, given the money sloshing around.
A lot of that money is not FIA's.

A surprising number of things are only possible because of volunteers. A friend of mine works at Glastonbury every year for free - and there are lots of others that do the same. He runs one of the fringe venues on the site - mostly poetry and stand up. Music festivals need to have so many things happening, and volunteers are important to many festivals. When we had the cricket world cup here in SA there was lots of volunteer involvement to make that work - mostly ushers and translators. Go to any National Trust property with guides in the UK and you will be dealing with volunteers. Or ride a heritage railway. Go watch a weekend cricket or soccer match in a social league.

Volunteers make a massive contribution, just for the love of the cause. Hats off to them!

And often that's all they get.
Bigbird
2017-05-14 05:41:28 UTC
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Nice to see FIA have the first Volunteer's day at Barcelona, an
acknowledgement of the invaluable role that many unpaid
volunteers play in the sport at even the highest level.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/headlines/2017/5/f1-stars-help-mark-first-fia-volunteers-day.html
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FIA is decades late on this, but better than no recognition at all.
What would it cost to stage an F1 race with risk-based
compensated marshals, race officials, medical staff and others?
Yes, it's pretty astounding if they still don't get paid, given the
money sloshing around.
A lot of that money is not FIA's.
A surprising number of things are only possible because of
volunteers. A friend of mine works at Glastonbury every year for free
- and there are lots of others that do the same. He runs one of the
fringe venues on the site - mostly poetry and stand up. Music
festivals need to have so many things happening, and volunteers are
important to many festivals. When we had the cricket world cup here
in SA there was lots of volunteer involvement to make that work -
mostly ushers and translators. Go to any National Trust property
with guides in the UK and you will be dealing with volunteers.
Volunteers also do a large proportion of the cleaning and gardening or
forrestry and conservation... not just the glam stuff.
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Or
ride a heritage railway. Go watch a weekend cricket or soccer match
in a social league.
Volunteers make a massive contribution, just for the love of the cause. Hats off to them!
And often that's all they get.
London 2012 Olympics, 70,000 volunteers, 8 million hours.

That's a lot of sofas given a short holiday.
geoff
2017-05-14 08:09:58 UTC
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A lot of that money is not FIA's.
A surprising number of things are only possible because of
volunteers. A friend of mine works at Glastonbury every year for free
- and there are lots of others that do the same.
Maybe more of it should be, rather than the FIA and volunteers
effectively subsidising FOM. Amazing that Bernie never got fatter really.

geoff
Bobster
2017-05-14 08:36:05 UTC
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A lot of that money is not FIA's.
A surprising number of things are only possible because of
volunteers. A friend of mine works at Glastonbury every year for free
- and there are lots of others that do the same.
Maybe more of it should be, rather than the FIA and volunteers
effectively subsidising FOM. Amazing that Bernie never got fatter really.
I think it'd be that way with or without FOM. I occasionally go to historic racing up the road from me. The marshals, the scrutineers etc are all volunteers.

These sorts of payments to support staff were never really the teams problem, they wanted their fees and the promoter had to take care of the costs of everything. FOM was originally there to represent the interests of the teams. Early on Bernie would extract as much as he could from the promoters, take his fee off and the rest went to the teams.

I don't think it would be any different without FOM. I would expect that many other pro series rely on volunteers. The volunteers aren't recruited by or work for FOM nor, directly, FIA.

Interestingly the statement from FIA doesn't thank those who make Grand Prix happen, it thanks the volunteers who give of their time at all levels of the sport.

It'd be interesting to find out who was at that function. Just the guys serving at the race, or did the Spanish ASN invite volunteers from all over and give them a chance of a selfie and tickets for quallies?
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