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geoff
2017-07-09 22:48:26 UTC
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Best demeanor in the cool-down room for years !All the chatting and
smiling. Quite a change.

BOT thrilled because he won.

VET happy because he extended his lead

RIC thrilled because.... he just always is !

geoff
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2017-07-09 23:33:08 UTC
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Best demeanor in the cool-down room for years !All the chatting and
smiling. Quite a change.
Then you've apparently neither seen, read, nor heard about
the remarked upon camaraderie after other races this season.
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BOT thrilled because he won.
VET happy because he extended his lead
RIC thrilled because.... he just always is !
geoff
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geoff
2017-07-09 23:39:16 UTC
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Best demeanor in the cool-down room for years !All the chatting and
smiling. Quite a change.
Then you've apparently neither seen, read, nor heard about
the remarked upon camaraderie after other races this season.
Certainly a bit better than last year ;-)

geoff
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2017-07-10 08:32:46 UTC
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Best demeanor in the cool-down room for years !All the chatting and
smiling. Quite a change.
Then you've apparently neither seen, read, nor heard about
the remarked upon camaraderie after other races this season.
Certainly a bit better than last year ;-)
That's because no toxic Rosberg.

(Was 'toxic' the word Wolff used to describe Rosbergs effect on the team
camaraderie in previous years? Or was in 'poisonous'?)
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little classification in the DSM*."
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Bigbird
2017-07-10 09:28:09 UTC
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Best demeanor in the cool-down room for years !All the chatting
and smiling. Quite a change.
Then you've apparently neither seen, read, nor heard about
the remarked upon camaraderie after other races this season.
Certainly a bit better than last year ;-)
That's because no toxic Rosberg.
(Was 'toxic' the word Wolff used to describe Rosbergs effect on the
team camaraderie in previous years? Or was in 'poisonous'?)
I don't think you'll find that Wolff quite said either of those things.
I think that is a very poor understanding of the team dynamics. It was
a toxic atmosphere for sure but it is totally naive to beleive that it
was caused by any one driver.

It's also naive to think that the current dynamics cannot or will not
change. Bottas is snapping at Lewis's heels; he has settled into the
team and he is back in the fight.

Lewis is moody in the pen again.
~misfit~
2017-07-10 12:29:07 UTC
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Best demeanor in the cool-down room for years !All the chatting
and smiling. Quite a change.
Then you've apparently neither seen, read, nor heard about
the remarked upon camaraderie after other races this season.
Certainly a bit better than last year ;-)
That's because no toxic Rosberg.
(Was 'toxic' the word Wolff used to describe Rosbergs effect on the
team camaraderie in previous years? Or was in 'poisonous'?)
I don't think you'll find that Wolff quite said either of those things.
Yeah he did, to Sky but he may have been half-joking (but not completely).
I'm not going to re-watch every minute of Sky coverage for this season to
find it again - hence my questions. It was around the third race of the year
I think. Maybe Sochi or Spain.
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I think that is a very poor understanding of the team
dynamics. It was a toxic atmosphere for sure but it is totally naive
to beleive that it was caused by any one driver.
Hey it was Toto not me. He said that Rosberg was so driven that inter-team
relationships took a back seat. He was sort of saying it as a back-handed
compliment - or as a consequence of Rosbergs drive. Ehh, I know I should
have bought it up here when it was broadcast but I figured probably half of
us saw it anyway and I didn't want to do the "I told you so" (because it's
what I'd alluded to on and off for the previous year or so).

So you're saying Toto has a poor understanding of team dynamics. Got it.
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It's also naive to think that the current dynamics cannot or will not
change.
Also I'm not saying that either.
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Bottas is snapping at Lewis's heels; he has settled into the
team and he is back in the fight.
Lewis is moody in the pen again.
Yeah but I think largely as a consequence of feeling let down by Vettel
then the gearbox penalty making him think of last years 'luck'. For the
start of this season he was reffering to him as "Seb" but this weekend he
started reffering to him a "Vettel" again. I get the impression he was
enjoying the more relaxed atmosphere between the top drivers this year and
that his bubble was burst by Vettel at Baku (then the g'box penalty) and
he's coming down to earth again.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
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2017-07-10 15:48:46 UTC
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Best demeanor in the cool-down room for years !All the chatting
and smiling. Quite a change.
Then you've apparently neither seen, read, nor heard about
the remarked upon camaraderie after other races this season.
Certainly a bit better than last year ;-)
That's because no toxic Rosberg.
(Was 'toxic' the word Wolff used to describe Rosbergs effect on the
team camaraderie in previous years? Or was in 'poisonous'?)
I don't think you'll find that Wolff quite said either of those things.
Yeah he did, to Sky but he may have been half-joking (but not completely).
I'm not going to re-watch every minute of Sky coverage for this season to
find it again - hence my questions. It was around the third race of the year
I think. Maybe Sochi or Spain.
Post by Bigbird
I think that is a very poor understanding of the team
dynamics. It was a toxic atmosphere for sure but it is totally naive
to beleive that it was caused by any one driver.
Hey it was Toto not me. He said that Rosberg was so driven that inter-team
relationships took a back seat. He was sort of saying it as a back-handed
compliment - or as a consequence of Rosbergs drive. Ehh, I know I should
have bought it up here when it was broadcast but I figured probably half of
us saw it anyway and I didn't want to do the "I told you so" (because it's
what I'd alluded to on and off for the previous year or so).
So you're saying Toto has a poor understanding of team dynamics. Got it.
Post by Bigbird
It's also naive to think that the current dynamics cannot or will not
change.
Also I'm not saying that either.
Post by Bigbird
Bottas is snapping at Lewis's heels; he has settled into the
team and he is back in the fight.
Lewis is moody in the pen again.
Yeah but I think largely as a consequence of feeling let down by Vettel
then the gearbox penalty making him think of last years 'luck'. For the
start of this season he was reffering to him as "Seb" but this weekend he
started reffering to him a "Vettel" again. I get the impression he was
enjoying the more relaxed atmosphere between the top drivers this year and
that his bubble was burst by Vettel at Baku (then the g'box penalty) and
he's coming down to earth again.
"So when I'm doing interviews [immediately after the race], that's
what I was disappointed in, because I worked so hard to close that gap
and get into that window." - Hamilton
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/130642
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Martin Harran
2017-07-10 05:52:44 UTC
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Best demeanor in the cool-down room for years !All the chatting and
smiling. Quite a change.
Then you've apparently neither seen, read, nor heard about
the remarked upon camaraderie after other races this season.
Or Vettel having a go at Bottas for jump starting ...
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BOT thrilled because he won.
VET happy because he extended his lead
RIC thrilled because.... he just always is !
geoff
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