Post by ~misfit~ Post by Bigbird Post by ~misfit~ Post by larkim
According to the BBC...
According toy YOU.
Your subject line is completely wrong! It's Renault who plan to drop RBR.
Finally payback for all of that sniping and bad-mouthing. Let
them eat Honda.... Once RBR opened the door by going Honda with
Torro Rosso it allowed Renault to finally get rid of RBR as they
now have a relationship with another supplier. It wasn't possible
for Renault to do this earlier as there's an FIA rule which says
no PU manufacturer may leave a team without a PU supply (unless
they're exiting F1).
RBR and TR are separate entities so there are no changes in that
Yep you're right. Howeever they're both owned by the same person and
he's shown he's not adverse to running Honda engines in at least one
team. (I know, different management etc. but I'm sure DM has the
final say on big decisions like this.)
Quite, but that has no impact on the regulations ergo Renaults
Post by ~misfit~ Post by Bigbird
What exact rule do you refer to and is it actually in force. There
were meant to be new rules of supply in force from last year but
actual events suggest they were not in force.
I don't read the pdfs that the FIA put out but I seem to remember
something about when RBR were bad-mouthing Renault a couple of years
ago it was said they couldn't legally stop supplying them as both
Ferrari and Mercedes had refused to suppy them. I guess that now
Honda are no longer supplying Mclaren (with their veto on who gets
Honda PUs) - and are happy to supply Torro Rosso that situation
doesn't exist now.
"The only way Renault would continue with Red Bull after 2018 is if
they were forced to under F1 rules that dictate no team can be left
without an engine supplier."
...but for that to happen Renault would have to be a minority supplier,
"OBLIGATION TO SUPPLY
Manufacturers will be obliged to supply engines to teams who require
them from next season.
"The basic is that if you are a team with no offer, you can ask the FIA
to have one, and there is a system of ballot," said Lom.
"We will take the power units that have the smallest number of
"If there is only one [that has the fewest customers] this will be the
one that has to give a power unit.
"If there is more than one there will be a ballot to decide which will
So the only connection with the TR supply is that Honda would still be
in F1 and if do not have more customers could be 'encouraged' into