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The team with the most pole positions always wins the wdc?
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l***@gmail.com
2018-04-30 14:36:49 UTC
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Since Ferrari are clearly the fastest this year, they will end up with the most poles and victories. The fastest car always wins the wdc, right?
Bigbird
2018-04-30 15:32:13 UTC
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Since Ferrari are clearly the fastest this year, they will end up
with the most poles and victories. The fastest car always wins the
wdc, right?
You seem full of self doubt. You will feel a lot safer with hindsight.
Brian W Lawrence
2018-05-01 12:33:30 UTC
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Since Ferrari are clearly the fastest this year, they will end up with the most poles and victories. The fastest car always wins the wdc, right?
The team with most poles didn't 'win the wdc' in these seasons:

WDC Most Poles
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1958 Hawthorn (Ferrari) 5 Vanwall
1962 G Hill (BRM) 6 Lotus
1964 Surtees (Ferrari) 5 Lotus
1967 Hulme (Brabham) 9 Lotus
1969 Stewart (Tyrrell) 5 Lotus
1970 Rindt (Lotus) 5 Ferrari
1973 Stewart (Tyrrell) 10 Lotus
1974 Fittipaldi (McLaren) 10 Ferrari
1977 Lauda (Ferrari) 7 Lotus
1979 Scheckter (Ferrari) 6 Renault
1980 Jones (Williams) 5 Renault
1981 Piquet (Brabham) 5 Renault
1982 Rosberg (Williams) 11 Renault
1983 Piquet (Brabham) 8 Ferrari
1986 Prost (McLaren) 8 Lotus
1995 Schumacher (Benetton) 12 Williams

In addition, in these seasons the WDC winner's team had an equal
number of poles to another team:

1960 Brabham (Cooper) 4 Lotus
1966 Brabham (Brabham) 3 Ferrari
1994 Schumacher (Benetton) 6 Williams
2008 Hamilton (McLaren) 8 Ferrari

Nitpick: 'win the wdc' - teams don't win the wdc, drivers do.
Halmyre
2018-05-01 17:22:29 UTC
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Post by l***@gmail.com
Since Ferrari are clearly the fastest this year, they will end up with the most poles and victories. The fastest car always wins the wdc, right?
WDC Most Poles
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1958 Hawthorn (Ferrari) 5 Vanwall
1962 G Hill (BRM) 6 Lotus
1964 Surtees (Ferrari) 5 Lotus
1967 Hulme (Brabham) 9 Lotus
1969 Stewart (Tyrrell) 5 Lotus
1970 Rindt (Lotus) 5 Ferrari
1973 Stewart (Tyrrell) 10 Lotus
1974 Fittipaldi (McLaren) 10 Ferrari
1977 Lauda (Ferrari) 7 Lotus
1979 Scheckter (Ferrari) 6 Renault
1980 Jones (Williams) 5 Renault
1981 Piquet (Brabham) 5 Renault
1982 Rosberg (Williams) 11 Renault
1983 Piquet (Brabham) 8 Ferrari
1986 Prost (McLaren) 8 Lotus
1995 Schumacher (Benetton) 12 Williams
In addition, in these seasons the WDC winner's team had an equal
1960 Brabham (Cooper) 4 Lotus
1966 Brabham (Brabham) 3 Ferrari
1994 Schumacher (Benetton) 6 Williams
2008 Hamilton (McLaren) 8 Ferrari
Nitpick: 'win the wdc' - teams don't win the wdc, drivers do.
What about the Constructors' Championship? How does that pan out?
Brian W Lawrence
2018-05-02 06:52:29 UTC
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What about the Constructors' Championship? How does that pan out?
I started looking at that, as well as wins & fastest laps, but didn't
have time to finish. I'll try and collate some data together later
today.
Brian W Lawrence
2018-05-03 13:56:13 UTC
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What about the Constructors' Championship? How does that pan out?
I started looking at that, as well as wins & fastest laps, but didn't
have time to finish. I'll try and collate some data together later
today.
It took longer than I expected :-)

OK, I've combined wins, poles & fastest laps into one table, which means
it's a bit busy!

In case of any confusion I've added some notes below.

YEAR WC-CONSTRUCTOR RW PP FL WDC RW PP FL Other team
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1958 Vanwall 6 5 3 HAW [Fer] * 6 Fer
1959 Cooper-Climax 5 5 5 BRA [Coo]

1960 Cooper-Climax 6 4 5 BRA [Coo] 4= Lot
1961 Ferrari 5 6 5 PHI [Fer]
1962 BRM 4 1 3 GHI [BRM] 6 5 Lot/Lot
1963 Lotus-Climax 7 7 6 CLA [Lot]
1964 Ferrari 3 2 2 SUR [Fer] 3= 5 4 Lot/Lot/Lot
1965 Lotus-Climax 6 6 6 CLA [Lot]
1966 Brabham-Repco 4 3 2 BRA [Brb] 3= 4 Fer/Fer
1967 Brabham-Repco 4 2 2 HUL [Brb] 4= 9 7 Lot/Lot/Lot
1968 Lotus-Ford 5 5 5 GHI [Lot]
1969 Matra-Ford [Tyr] 6 2 6 STE [Tyr] 5 Lot

1970 Lotus-Ford 6 4 1 RIN [Lot] 5 6 Fer/Tyr
1971 Tyrrell-Ford 7 6 4 STE [Tyr] 4= Fer
1972 Lotus-Ford 5 3 0 FIT [Lot] 4 4 Fer/Tyr
1973 Lotus-Ford 7 10 7 STE [Tyr] *
1974 McLaren-Ford 4 2 1 FIT [McL] 10 6 Fer/Fer
1975 Ferrari 6 9 6 LAU [Fer]
1976 Ferrari 6 6 7 HUN [McL] * 6= 8 McL/Mcl
1977 Ferrari 4 2 3 LAU [Fer] 5 7 5 Lot/Lot/Lot
1978 Lotus-Ford 8 12 7 AND [Lot]
1979 Ferrari 6 2 6 SCH [Fer] 6 Ren

1980 Williams-Ford 6 3 5 JON [Wil] 5 Ren
1981 Williams-Ford 4 2 7 PIQ [Brb] *
1982 Ferrari 3 2 2 ROS [Wil] * 4 11 5 McL/Ren/Ren
1983 Ferrari 4 8 3 PIQ [Brb] * 4= 5 Brb/Brb
1984 McLaren-TAG 12 3 8 LAU [McL] 9 Brb
1985 McLaren-TAG 6 2 6 PRO [McL] 8 Lot
1986 Williams-Honda 9 4 11 PRO [McL] * 8 Lot
1987 Williams-Honda 9 12 7 PIQ [Wil]
1988 McLaren-Honda 15 15 10 SEN [McL]
1989 McLaren-Honda 10 15 8 PRO [McL]

1990 McLaren-Honda 6 12 5 SEN [McL] 6= 5= Fer/Fer
1991 McLaren-Honda 8 10 4 SEN [McL] 8 Wil
1992 Williams-Renault 10 15 12 MAN [Wil]
1993 Williams-Renault 10 15 10 PRO [Wil]
1994 Williams-Renault 7 6 8 MSC [Ben] * 8 6= 8= Ben/Ben/Ben
1995 Benetton-Renault 11 4 7 MSC [Ben] 12 7= Wil/Wil
1996 Williams-Renault 12 12 11 DHI [Wil]
1997 Williams-Renault 8 11 9 VIL [Wil]
1998 McLaren-Mercedes 9 12 9 HAK [McL]
1999 Ferrari 6 3 6 HAK [McL] * 7 11 9 McL/McL/McL

2000 Ferrari 10 10 5 MSC [Fer] 12 McL
2001 Ferrari 9 11 3 MSC [Fer] 8 Wil
2002 Ferrari 15 10 12 MSC [Fer]
2003 Ferrari 8 8 8 MSC [Fer]
2004 Ferrari 15 12 14 MSC [Fer]
2005 Renault 8 7 3 ALO [Ren] 10 7= 12 McL/McL/McL
2006 Renault 8 7 5 ALO [Ren] 9 7= 9 Fer/Fer/Fer
2007 Ferrari 9 9 12 RAI [Fer]
2008 Ferrari 8 8 13 HAM [McL] * 8= McL
2009 Brawn-Mercedes 8 5 4 BUT [Brw] 5= 6 Red/Red

2010 Red Bull-Renault 9 15 6 VET [Red] 6= McL
2011 Red Bull-Renault 12 18 10 VET [Red]
2012 Red Bull-Renault 7 8 7 VET [Red] 7= 8= McL/McL
2013 Red Bull-Renault 13 11 12 VET [Red]
2014 Mercedes 16 18 12 HAM [Mer]
2015 Mercedes 16 18 13 HAM [Mer]
2016 Mercedes 19 18 9 ROS [Mer]
2017 Mercedes 11 15 9 HAM [Mer]

OK, columns ought to be mainly self explanatory, but - Year & WCC
winner, followed by Wins, Poles & Flaps for that team. WDC winner
and [team] - WDC in 3 letter abbreviation, teams are also 3-letter
(note that Brabham & Brawn would both be Bra, but I've used Brb for
Brabham & Brw for Brawn).

* indicates years when the WDC did not drive for the WCC team.

The 2nd RW, PP & FL columns show where other teams exceeded (or
equalled, shown by =) the WCC teams tally. The other team with the most
in any category is listed in the last column. Note that there were
sometimes more than one other team who bettered the WCC team, but
only the 'first' is listed.

Also, there were 3 WDCs named Hill so I abbreviated their names to
PHI (Phil), GHI (Graham) & DHI (Damon).

I won't be surprised if there are a few errors in there.

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